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People are used to seeing stark warnings on tobacco products alerting them about the potentially deadly risks to health. Now a study suggests similar labelling on food could help them make wiser choices about not just their health, but the health of the planet.

The research, by academics at Durham University, found that warning labels including a graphic image – similar to those warning of impotence, heart disease or lung cancer on cigarette packets – could reduce selections of meals containing meat by 7-10%.

It is a change that could have a material impact on the future of the planet. According to a recent YouGov poll, 72% of the UK population classify themselves as meat-eaters. But the Climate Change Committee (CCC), which advises the government on its net zero goals, has said the UK needs to slash its meat consumption by 20% by 2030, and 50% by 2050, in order to meet them.

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[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Please focus on curbing your own satisfaction, so the oil industry can continue to be the biggest polluter AND make money hand over fist.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Guardian is very much a neoliberal newspaper (some people confuse it with being Leftwing because, like most neolibs, they're also liberal on moral subjects) so it is usually against regulatory solutions and heavilly favours using Nudge Theory to influence the masses.

So yeah, you'll see a lot of articles about how people should become Vegetarian because of the emissions from livestock farming and very few demanding, for example, regulation of aircraft emissions (though there is a single Opinion writter there which does not suffer from profitability-prioritizing-thinking when it comes to ecological subjects).

[–] r1veRRR@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The oil industry is, of course, doing all that polluting for the sheer fun of it. Our collective consumption habits, esp. in the PRIVILEGED western countries, have absolutely nothing to do with it.

There is no sustainable way to eat the amount of meat we do, no matter how much or how little capitalism gets involved. Even assuming the absolute best (aka unrealistic) stats for grass-fed cows, we'd still have to reduce our meat consumption to 1/7 of where it currently is. Do you think that is doable just by destroying some companies? Do you think people would just accept that???

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ban lobbying and see how fast the whole justification falls apart. There's a reason why west is so car dependent and there's no public transport in sight.

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

lol but not on gas? Plastic?

Waste of money and time.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (30 children)

Not really. The meat industry makes INSANE amounts of GHG emissions. Whataboutism surely won't solve climate change.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Calling something whataboutism won’t either. That’s just lazy and dismissive.

The CONSUMER is not going to make a difference. The change needs to happen on an industry scale.

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[–] T156@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

This seems like rather an optimistic headline, seeing as the article also says that the results from the study were "not statistically signifiant".

Considering how meat is in most things, you'd think that it would just oversaturate people with warnings, and they would just end up ignoring it. Similar to how people more or less ignore California's Proposition 65 in the USA, because it's so broad, and the thresholds are so low that basically everything has a label saying "This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer". Anything significant gets lost in the noise.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why dont we do this also every time someone buys a car?

[–] GoosLife@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Every car is the same shape and only comes in one shade of brown. They are required to have large, graphic advertisements across the sides warning about the environmental impact.

I actually think that would be very effective. It would also make every city very depressing to live in. However, we could mitigate that by populating the streets with colorful plants and art.

[–] BeefPiano@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

From a health perspective, absolutely.

From a climate perspective? Just tax carbon and give the proceeds back as UBI.

To the extent that health warnings work, it’s because it affects the consumer directly. A climate warning is saying “this burger is going to make life slightly worse for someone halfway around the world.”

It may change consumption slightly but also risks a blowback of denial. People don’t like feeling guilty and are perfectly capable of sticking their head in the sand so they can enjoy a steak.

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[–] BurnedDonutHole@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yeah it's going to stop people from eating what ever shit that's available for the cheapest price to continue living. I'm pretty sure this is just another bullshit study to talk about how people should eat healthy while they don't have budget or means to...

Edit: It seems many of you missed the meaning of what I'm talking about! Poor people who eat fast food, chicken or whatever processed meat products available for cheap not going to give a fuck about what their meat is labeled. Meat just doesn't mean the steak people buy from the market! If this is so hard for you imbeciles to understand without getting triggered because someone said something you don't understand than there is no need for further discussion. Processed meat consumption (including all kinds of meat beef, lamb, pork, chicken even fish) is the cheapest protein source for poor people. This study is disregarding how poor people do their food shopping. Until so called I can't believe it's meat type of vegetarian alternatives come to the point of real meat poor people going to continue to eat meat. And all you butt hurt so called activist can't even see the difference because you have your head up so high up your high horses to realize what the fuck is normal people going through. Now kindly please go fuck yourselves and don't comment any more unless you have an actual and feasible solution.

[–] pugsnroses77@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

have you seen the prices of beans and rice?? i save a lotta money by not eating meat. even with the outrageous subsidies poured into meat it can still hardly compare.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right? The price of animal products has SKYROCKETED lately. I save so much money by literally eating anything else.

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[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Meat is cheap because of govt subsidies. And lab grown meat will soon be able to undercut slaughtered meat in price without those subsidies, so the whole “let poor people eat what they can afford” argument will switch sides in the coming years without new protectionist governmental policies.

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[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

No it won't

[–] orphiebaby@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a salty comments section. Can't even tell who's salty or why, but they definitely are.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should salt, generally season, your board, not the steak. Unless you actually brine/marinate the thing.

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[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thankfully due to the stagflation I'm doing some austerity efforts regarding my grocery procurement. This has resulted in my diet having consisted of the majority of vegetables with some eggs here and there.

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[–] cricket97@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I ate fried grasshoppers once and it was seriously good. The buggers tasted like shrimps.

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[–] Destraight@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate this idea. My appetite can be ruined by stuff like this, and that would suck to throw away food since I can't eat it

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[–] clearleaf@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The cigarette warnings don't do anything though. The shock images were scary to me as a child but by the time I was 18 I was so used to it that it was like I couldn't see them anymore.

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[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I remember when these were introduced on cigarette packs. For a while there was a trend of "collecting all the pics", while other found a nice business in selling "cigarette pack holder" that would just mask the pictures. I'm not sure any of that was the initial goal.

I wonder how applying this to food would turn out, seeing that a fair share of people are well informed of the effect we have on the climate already but simply don't care.

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