Watch them cry foul, threaten to pull out, start a legal fight, then go nowhere like the abusive type they are.
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Watch them cry foul, threaten to pull out
Ofc. But childish maneuvers are generally less effective in Europe where authorities are still authorities and not just the revenge actors with the bigger guns.
Yep - and they're too big a market to abandon, meaning they'll just roll over in the end.
Meta's practices also collected protected data like race, religion, and sexual orientation. Meta disputed that it needed explicit consent, arguing that agreeing to terms of service was enough, but courts rejected this.
Oh please let this be the beginning of a global backlash against corporate EULA's and the start of a path towards a few well understood EULA's, similar to how we have a few well understood FOSS licenses.
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This is awesome but I don't really understand.
The purported issue is that they don't have explicit consent for some data points. They apparently responded by saying they were going to charge a subscription.
Why wouldn't they just get consent? I'm sure most fb users will just agree to anything put in front of them.
Facebook collects data from various sites and doesn't care if you are a user or not.
How can you get a consent from someone who doesn't even know facebook collects data from?
This is the funny thing. You don't. It has to be informed consent. ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪
Which makes Meta’s entire business illegal in the EU, thus the lawsuits and bans
It's about the part where they can't hide the data collection in the terms and conditions of the site. You have to have a separate clear consent step for them to collect the data.
I bet there is something like what of they don’t consent? Then they have the choice to pay the subscription instead of being denied access to the site and therefore not make any money for Meta.
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I'd just like to thank the EU for having the data privacy laws that I suspect most Americans want but can't have because of the fact our country is owned by corporations
Honestly thinking this all week - pretty much every country in the world either voted yes or abstained on the Gaza/Israel ceasefire resolution, except for the U.S. (and a handful of others), who just coincidentally happens to have billions of dollars earmarked every year to go to Israel on the condition they spend it on arms from U.S. companies. That, and its strategic use in the region (access to fossil fuel resources), probably the whole reason.
They're already starting their paid ad-free $10 a month tiers for Europe only. They'll stop showing advertising to underage people "for now". They're going to flood Europe with garbage ads and maximize subscribers that way.
I can't fathom people willing to pay $10 for Facebook and twitter .
Addiction is a hell of a thing
I know it's a week-old thread, but I just received the notification on the Instagram app about the subscription and I have a few thoughts. First of all, here it's actually 12 euros. As a relatively light user - I check Instagram maybe once or twice a day and FB once a week or every two weeks, just to keep in contact with people I don't text -, that's a lot of money to give to Meta for those services. I'm all for paying to have content without the tracking and the ads, but not 12 euros unfortunately. Which is, I guess, why they chose such a high price.
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Hopefully they'll do that, so people would stop using their platform and move to a less money-hungry unetichal alternative.
What would the alternative be? A genuine question. I'm not a Facebook fan at all but here in Denmark so much is on Facebook. Announcements of the local playground, cafés, events, almost everyone uses messenger. It's insane. And if it's not on FB then it's on Instagram.
Isn't mastodon/the fediverse sponsored by the German government? Maybe we could do something around that
I don't know. But mastadon is hardly an alternative to Facebook or Instagram.
Yeah, it feels like there's no alternative.
I only hope Facebook will be bad enough that people would even want to seek another alternative.
Otherwise I don't see people switch.
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Seems to be working for YouTube!
And Google? And Alphabet?
And Amazon. Oh, and nowadays Microsoft has decided to join the club too.
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a targeted advertising ban would kill just about every social media platform
They could just run contextual ads for much less effort and privacy violations, and still get the same or better result.
why do you think that would get "the same or better result"?
It's how advertising worked for literally the entire history of advertising before the modern internet. You put ads for car stuff on the cars website. You don't need to build an entire dossier on me. If I'm looking at the star wars wiki, you can be pretty confident that I'm interested in sci-fi and fantasy. You don't need to spend billions of dollars tracking me to know that.
This is not an expert opinion so I could be wrong, but I think it would be a better system. Simpler to implement, less stalking, less "oops we didn't show any house ads to black people" potential.
these companies spend a lot of money and computation power on intelligent targeting systems because they are in fact better from a capitalist perspective
Maybe. I guess it makes it easier for Google to sell many different ads in the same time/space. Still sucks for everyone else though.
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Nice. As someone who deals with compliance I know it's gonna be a huge pain for them to deal with, which makes it even better.
I will only believe it when I see it. It has been a few years since the EU is threatening a ban and meta threatening to leave the EU, so far none has committed any action.
EU didn't ban them because Meta complied. (the data protection bill, GDPR)
They will comply again, unfortunately. We could use a ban.
Must be nice living in countries where the government works for humans instead of corporations.
I can't wait for Facebook to take the time and energy to make two different versions of their platform. One to adhere to the EU regulations, and the other for everyone else that harvests every last bit of data.
Oh, no, boo hoo!
Lmao
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