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[–] Elliotjpearson@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago

the united job is proven to drive a man insane

[–] seanierox@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago

Is it possible he goes? Thought he seemed rattled after the match.

[–] RebornUnited11@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago

We’re all pissed cuz City beat us but we all knew they would. Look at our defense and tell me you thought the likes of Maguire, Evans, Lindelof, and Dalot we’re going to keep City quiet.

A lot of comments on ETH spending 400mil on his team to play like this but it’s literally a youngster in hojlund, amrabat, onana, and evans. We’re still missing 300mil of players that he signed

[–] glutenite@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago

Ahh so he is finally at the "acceptance" stage

[–] D1794@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

And he says it's specifically cause of the players we have.

You can't play Ajax football with Fernandes, Casemiro, Rashford, McTominay, Wan Bissaka, Maguire. Could go on. Cause we've Frankensteined a squad of mainly 2 different counter attacking managers, Mourinho and Ole.

What is causing the issue is that he's brought in some 'Ajax' players to play alongside the others, so we're playing some fucked up in-between which isn't giving the best of either, and actually showing the worst in both.

He has to take blame, but the board above him do too, why is there nobody above him saying we now have a squad filled with players who want to be on the ball and also several players who treat the ball like a grenade?

[–] Expensive-Twist7984@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Having no identity to speak of as a club is a major issue- how does Manchester United want to play as a whole, and are the players and manager suitable for that?

We hang our hat on having young players come through and are immensely proud of it, but what kind of football are we teaching them, and is that uniform from youth level to the first team? The sooner United have an identity and plug in players who fit that the better; I’d sooner we know what we are and live or die by that than “Frankenstein” ourselves into being a team, which you’re absolutely spot on about.

[–] Bujakaa92@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So? Every manager somewhat gets the old guard and has to manage around it. Think Ange or Emery got clean slate and players they wanted from day one?

[–] HaroldSaxon@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago

As much as I dislike Ten Hag, you're right. Look at Arteta too, it took him years to get rid of the old guard and to turn things around. That included getting rid of Raul too behind the scenes

[–] GuardianGundam@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

This idea that every new manager has to buy deozens of new players to be successful is ridiculous and was created purely as an excuse for Chelsea and Man Utd

[–] Bischoffshof@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would have said fair enough but watching what Ange has done at Spurs in 10 games when our team was built for counterattacking under Mourinho and Conteball. Sure we brought in a few players but he’s had a single window and we look much more coherent than what’s going on with y’all.

[–] D1794@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago

You guys have some amazing players shackled by Conte and Mourinho. We've been let down by some of these players for several managers across multiple years, and some of them are still getting the chance.

We can get a lot better than we currently are. Struggle to get worse, especially given the injuries. Everyone seems low on confidence.

[–] El_Giganto@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

What is causing the issue is that he's brought in some 'Ajax' players to play alongside the others, so we're playing some fucked up in-between which isn't giving the best of either, and actually showing the worst in both.

But looking at the United squad right now, who are actually players you'd expect to see at an Ajax side? Martinez and Eriksen. Not so much anyone else. Even Antony isn't the kind of player to really set the playstyle at a club like Ajax, even if he did well there.

Ten Hag should be blamed for his mistakes, but I wouldn't say this is a squad in between the old counter attacking style and the "Ajax" style. This is an unfinished squad, with simply a lot of poor players and unfit players. I would blame Ten Hag for having a front three of Rashford, Hojlund and Antony. Because it is a very expensive lineup, that doesn't really make sense together and isn't all that great individually either. But he's also trying to make it work with what was already in the squad and a lot of the players just aren't up for it.

The Frankenstein squad took us to third last season though. This is so do with form and confidence.

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[–] HANAEMILK@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago

This guy has already given up

[–] TommyManners@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago

What’s he on about, united are playing exactly like a team that’s bottom of their respective league /s

[–] MinotauroTBC@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Will we ever play in a certain way Eric? Because right now it just looks like yoloball

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[–] huge-whales@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if we sack him then what? We hire another guy, honeymoon period until next season then rinse and repeat. There’s no structure behind the manager, it’s like being an accountant and not being able to use excel or accounting software.

Some of these players will be on their FIFTH manager if we sack him. A couple will be on their fourth and a whole lot will be on their third. That’s unheard of anywhere else in football. For me, sacking him is not the solution

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[–] modrics_hairband@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Ten hag will play the football that the current ajax is playing

[–] OkTear9244@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Well it looked half way there yesterday

[–] wank_for_peace@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Picture of Ajax and picture of ManU.

Insert

They are the same.

😊

[–] CaptAwesomeness@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Don't forget to blame Ronaldo for being too old and slow to not play Ajax football, and Mourinho for being too defensive unlike Ajax.

[–] Venous-Roland@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It's obviously the Glazers fault.

[–] lyyki@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Am I crazy in thinking that as long as Man United's best players are Bruno & Rashford who I feel like are very good direct players then it makes sense to play direct?

[–] flavianpatrao@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

should have said that at the interview

[–] Saint-12@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Looks like he’s trying to play like the Ajax of this season. Bald move.

[–] Same_Grouness@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

But you even signed a bunch of Ajax players to do just that...

[–] siriBackInWakanda@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ten Hag's biggest problem so far is his recruitment. They did not try hard for Frenkie when we had financial issues(he wanted to stay but the club wanted him out) and bought Mount for 60-70 million. Frenkie, Bruno and Casemiro would have worked for sure.

[–] Weishaupt17@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, their recruitment to me is genuinely embarrassing. It seems like they just wake up and decide to sign someone; Casemiro signing at the times left be baffled. For a guy like ETH known for a high pressing and possession based football, why spending all that money on a slow midfield destroyer that weak in moving the ball fast and controlling the tempo of a game. It obviously obliged ETH to adapt and the only way is changing your style of play

[–] siriBackInWakanda@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Casemiro signing makes sense when you have Kroos and Modric like midfielders to compliment him. Even that did not work out most of the time in the last few years.

[–] PennyWhyte@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ermmm, United literally agreed a fee with Barca for weeks until they withdrew the offer because FDJ did not want to move. So not much they could have done in that case.

[–] siriBackInWakanda@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were not ready to pay the amount we asked and neither De Jong salary demands.

[–] PennyWhyte@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Barcelona accepted and reached an agreement on the sale of FDJ. United just never reached an agreement on personal terms with FDJ because he didn't want to move. This is well established and not even speculation.

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[–] FloppedYaYa@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago

How the fuck is it Ten Hag's fault that the club handled the De Jong negotiations horrendously.

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