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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 93 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm a school bus driver and by far the weirdest experience (which I have regularly) is driving a busload of middle school or high school girl athletes (almost all white) somewhere and listening to them sing along to music with the n-word in it. They do not skip the n-word.

[–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

they wouldn't be edgy and cool if they did.

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 92 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Just say ninja, every time. All those songs can be fun songs about ninjas.

[–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] BROMETHIUS@startrek.website 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

Did you notice a sign out in front of my house that said "Dead Ninja Storage"?

No. I didn't.

You know WHY you didn't see that sign?

Why?

'Cause it ain't there, 'cause storing dead ninjas ain't my fucking business, that's why!

[–] Knives@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Go ninja, go ninja, go!

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[–] VonCesaw@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Jokes aside, I'm about 95% sure Elmo is supposed to be black-coded

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're not wrong, Sesame Street was developed to look like Harlem. It's been very much about black representation in every aspect they could consider since the very early days.

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Huh, even as a young child in Australia I kind of was aware sesame street was from a rougher area, although safe. Wonder how I clocked that even though it was never explicit

[–] PreviouslyAmused@lemmy.ml 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The result of a very creative dude who had a vision of exactly how he wanted convey his message so everyone felt included.

We still miss you Jim.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Sesame Street and Avenue Q were closer than we thought.

[–] KingGordon@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Wow, even Sesame Street is whitewashing their characters now? :P

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[–] FrostbyteIX@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Black guy here:

I give all you motherfuckers the Nigga Pass. I hereby bestow you all the title of Honourary Niggaz.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Was there a South Park episode where Tolkien had his allowance cut off, and made up for it by selling "Nigga Passes" to the school? Or did I dream that?

[–] Raz@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] EternalNicodemus@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Person here: I give you the homie badge

[–] settoloki@lemmy.one 12 points 10 months ago

Another person here: and I gave you..let's just say you should probably schedule a doctor's visit.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (13 children)

Honestly, this is why I don't listen to music with the n-word in it. If I'm not allowed to speak that word, I don't want it in my subconscious.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

Yeah this is the one instance where idgaf I'm saying it.

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nah. I listen to 90s hip hop quite a bit. No way around the word.

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I do the same, but this is really the issue with words some people are allowed to say but others aren't. Hearing something all the time and not saying it just isn't something we're built for. So it's kind of like encouraging a cultural separation.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

If I recall correctly, many organizations that advocate in the interest of black people prefer no one use the word.

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[–] MrGerrit@feddit.nl 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

If it's in the song I like I just go along with. Me doing that isn't in any negative way. If the artist don't like some people say it, they shouldn't put in there.

Skipping it or bleeping it out is like censoring art.

This reminds of when Kendrick Lamar got a white girl on stage and let her sing along with him. As soon she drops the n-word he stops the song and she got shit from everybody there.

He did give her a second try on the song.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I once worked with a black dude who said the word all the time. One day we were talking hella shit about our boss and all kinds of n words flying out of his mouth, and I let one loose too, froze, and looked at him and he didn't even give a shit.

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[–] Rosco@sh.itjust.works 29 points 10 months ago (20 children)

I'm curious, is there another word that have the same taboo status as the n-word? I've never heard of another word that can only be uttered if you have the right shade of skin. What a stupid world we live in, seriously.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 17 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I'm not speaking from any position of authority here, but I think it has more to do with being in the right culture, not the right skin color like some people imply.

There are urban white kids who grew up in the projects who use the same language as their black peers, and I think generally no one cares. However, when someone outside that culture uses that language, it's not something they use for normal speech and there's probably some other motivation behind it. It's just like in a lot of people's speech they say "bro" but it doesn't mean brother. To people outside the culture it means black person, but they use it like others use "bro". It doesn't really mean anything.

Reiterating, I have very little experience with this. It's just my observations. I've known black people who it'd be weird for them to use this language and seen white people who it's just a normal part of their speech.

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[–] Okashiikessen@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's called "reappropriation", and there are words in other groups, such as the LGBT community, which are only considered "acceptable" when used by members of the in-group.

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/pc-and-reclaimed-words/

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[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 26 points 10 months ago

When the artist makes the audience do the chorus in a gig, Elmo better not fuck it up

[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 24 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Unless you're Korean. "Ni ga" (니가) literally means "you" in Korean. With the not-so-recent surge in popularity of Kpop globally, I know there's been more than one outraged person accusing Korean rappers of racism for saying "you" in their own language.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

Russell Peters, a Canadian comedian, actually mentioned something similar in Mandarin years ago in one of his specials. Here he is talking about going to a KFC in Beijing.

Note: Russell is of Indian descent and uses a lot of racial jokes in both the entire special as well as this specific bit.

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

"Brother" scans and rhymes, and (probably) won't get your ass kicked.

[–] BROMETHIUS@startrek.website 10 points 10 months ago

You got that right, my ninja.

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[–] Transcendant@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I just make a record-scratch sound instead of say the word if it's in a song I'm singing. If people think that's lame then I'll live with that. I do NOT want to get comfortable saying that word; I'm the same shade as printer paper.

I had a friend get very comfortable with the phrase "yeaaahhh, ma nizzle" (substitute nizzle for the word it's code for, because I can confirm after using a perfectly acceptable word similar to snickering it will be removed and also I don't wanna type it).

One day, we're at a very rough pub in Digbeth. Lots of drinks had. We're all sat at a table outside, behind my friend are two very large, very black bouncers. One legit looked like the Hulk and capable of casually ripping my friend's head off. The other wasn't as muscled but still well-built and very tall. Then... my friend.... says the words. Everyone at the table kinda freezes and goes quiet. The very tall guy goes "What did he say?!" and the Hulk just shakes his head sadly and says "something stupid". Thank you Hulk for not ripping my friend's head off.

And that, boys and girls, is why you don't get comfortable saying words that aren't for you.

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[–] CluelessDude@lemmy.zip 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Would his favorite song be "Elmo in Paris" ?

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[–] swagamuffin@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Okay but if I'm doing karaoke I'm gonna sing the song like it is. I'm not the guy who's just gonna skip the word or say "neighbor" or something, sorry.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 39 points 10 months ago (3 children)

you know karaoke is optional, right?

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (10 children)

So is putting the word in the song. I'm not ruining my vibe over dumb shit. Don't put it there and I won't say it

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[–] oldGregg@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

*picks the song "my nigga" by YG for karaoke

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[–] TryingToEscapeTarkov@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago
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