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[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 79 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Seems like nonsense to me to change time every six months

[–] dpunked@feddit.de 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Its rubbish and we should just stay in summertime. Yet another daylight hour stolen in the evening

[–] Skasi@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

What the hell, why not stay in standard time? I don't like having to get out of bed while it's still dark outside. It's already bad with everything being dark outside at 8am in winter, doesn't need to be made even worse.

[–] dpunked@feddit.de 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In the morning and while I am at work I don’t really care for the conditions outside. By 8 its daylight here no matter the summer or wintertime. But what I care for is going outside in the evening, doing sports in the forest, go cycling and enjoy nature. Its hard doing that when it is dark when I finish working. Other geographic regions might prefer winter time, I personally prefer sommertime

[–] Skasi@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In the morning and while I am at work I don’t really care for the conditions outside.

Wow really? Because when I was younger I hated waking up in winter when it was still dark outside and having to go to school. I'm assume my classmates did too. If school time doesn't change and the clock is 1 hour forward in winter, then it would be like standing up EVEN earlier.

So I guess as a person you also don't mind much doing night shifts, is that right?

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[–] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

When we would permanently go to summer time, I will do everything one hour later than now.

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[–] i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 48 points 11 months ago

Yes. I'm not particularly bothered which timezone we stay in, just pick one.

[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Should have ended some 20 years ago.

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Gonna raise that to whenever lightbulbs were common in households.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I don't really care which we stick with, but we should pick one, summer time or winter time, and then stick with it. Or split the difference, I don't care. Let's all set the clocks a half-hour off and stay there forever. But the additional complication of changing all clocks and fucking with everyone's rhythms is frankly just cruel.

If YOU want more light in the "morning," YOU wake up at nine rather than eight. If YOU want more light in the evening, YOU go to bed at 9 rather than 10. This doesn't have to be an "all of us" thing.

[–] lemmyBeHere@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most people doesn't have a choice when to wake up, as they need to get to work.

Even though I hate that it gets dark sooner, I think we should stay in winter time because AFAIK morning light is important for our health.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

This is what collective bargaining power is for.

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[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I fucking hate the changing of the clock for the season. I wish it was banned across the planet. It's stupid and statistically shows it's bad for traffic, deadly to older people, especially men, and generally bad for businesses.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Elaborate on "especially men."

[–] TheActualDevil@sffa.community 9 points 11 months ago

Specifically, I'm assuming they're talking about the change in spring when we lose an hour overnight. That morning is pretty deadly, statistically. The lack of sleep causes car accidents, heart attacks, and strokes. The stress lack of sleep puts on the body is no joke, and when it hits most of the population all at once, people die. And I'm assuming men are more likely to suffer from heart attacks maybe?

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[–] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, we should stay at winter time.

[–] Skasi@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I think you mean Standard Time?
Winter time is when the clock is set back one additional hour, ie -2h when compared to Summer Time (a.k.a. Daylight Saving Time).

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

We call standard time winter time here. I just complained about it to my wife yesterday, that we are NOT switching to winter time. We are switching back to standard time.

But everybody calls it winter time.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's weird that it's standard time considering more of the year is spent in summer time.

[–] Skasi@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It's not weird considering that historically it has been the standard time and only later the daylight saving time idea (aka summer time) was introduced. Plus on the equator you don't really need them as such and on the southern hemisphere they'd be the opposite.

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes please. Permanent DST would be nice. I hate it being pitch black at 4pm. Not to mention adjusting sleeping patterns.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Wait, is it not next week?

I do agree that we should end it, and I think most people agree. My part of the world (BC, Canada) is ready to drop it and it is waiting for the US states in our time zone to push it through their gridlocked politics. There's growing pressure to just give up on the US and just do it ourselves. Last I heard, there was bipartisan support in the US to also drop it, but there's always some other mess to clean up or some other partisan thing that gets stuffed into the bill.

As for winter time vs. summer time, I really do not care. Both options will hurt some people and help others.

Pick either one and stick with it

[–] Heggico@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

EU was last night/today (for me), US and Canada is first sunday of november right?

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Ah makes sense, even weirder that we do it on different days.

What's the public sentiment like in the EU, are people close to dropping it?

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's being discussed but there's no agreement yet. The main debate is over whether to choose the same one (summer vs winter) for the whole EU. If we do, countries at the geographic extremes like Spain vs Finland will get shafted. If we don't and allow each country to pick one (or a completely new timezone even) we could end up with weird fragmented time zones where neighboring countries are all over the place.

We do agree for the most part that it needs to be dropped.

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[–] bignate@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago

This is my favourite part of the whole ridiculous parade. For a good two weeks or so all my meetings with US colleagues are just chaos.

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[–] thelsim@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I would love for CEST to end. It should just stick to whichever timezone is giving you noon when the sun is at it's highest point.

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[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (14 children)

I prefer standard time.

If anything, it should be inverse. I want more sunlight during winter years.

We all should just move to Arizona where they don't follow DST.

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No, figuring out which of my clocks is fucked was a nice tradition, and now I also get to manually restart my poorly written python daemons.

But really, yes, we should.

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[–] Oneeightnine@feddit.uk 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My youngest has been awake since 5am send help.

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[–] the16bitgamer@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For whatever reason I read time as tires. And I'm like. No this is stupid the roads would be damaged.

Then I reread it 2-3 times then I got it. And I agree we need to stop changing our clocks.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Oh, thats why my cat was being extra annoying this morning

[–] Trippin@feddit.nl 8 points 11 months ago

I don't really care which one, but end this nonsense. Switching every 6 months is so last century

[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 11 months ago

No I really enjoy it being dark at 4pm. /s

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 7 points 11 months ago

Yes, I can live with UTC, GMT, Pacific, a single global timezone. I don't care at this point - just stop making me feel out of wack twice a year!

[–] clemdemort@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yes I don't see the point besides creating global confusion and making me Chang the hour on my alarm

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[–] LadyLikesSpiders@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I hate changing the time, but I'll be honest, as a night owl, I kinda love how early it gets dark

[–] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 6 points 11 months ago

Yes we should end winter

[–] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I couldnt care less honestly. We live in the 21st century and All my clocks switch automaticly and thats all i care about

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[–] 31415926535@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

I'm living in a shitty, unsafe area. DST in the fall means it gets darker sooner, not safe to go out, get stuff done. The pepper spray comes out earlier. By December, gets dark at 430pm, and I'm like wtf, seriously?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It should have ended years ago. It costs money, but worse, it also kills people.

The EU has decided to drop the switch, and asked the members to decide whether they want to stay at CET (Central Europen Time) or CEST (Central European Summer Time). That was many years ago. Nothing happened.

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[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't care. I am totally fine with switching time

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No wonder I feel like I missed an hour of sleep. I never remember when this shit happens now that every clock I own is connected to the internet and changes automatically.

That's really the only thing I hate about it. If we didn't do it, eventually it would be dark at noon.

[–] elint@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In my country, we "fall back" in the fall and get an extra hour of sleep. Springtime is when we lose an hour. Is it the opposite where you are?

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[–] TheFerrango@lemmy.basedcount.com 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Keep this forever and just skip summer

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