"Standard time" is the "fall back" during winter. At the center of the time zone, the sun is at its highest point at noon. Depending on latitude, we have as little as 8 to 10 hours of daylight, with 4 to 5 hours before noon and 4 to 5 hours after noon. So sunrise is between 7 and 8 AM at the center of the time zone, and sunset is between 4 and 5 PM.

"Daylight Savings Time" is the "spring forward" during summer. The sun is at its highest point at 1PM in the center of the timezone. We have 14 to 16 hours of daylight. That's 7 to 8 hours before and after 1PM, (6 to 7 hours before noon) or a sunrise between 5 and 6 AM, and a sunset between 8 and 9 PM. (8 to 9 hours after noon.)

If we maintained DST through the winter, sunrise would be as late as 8 to 9 AM on the shortest day of the year, (December 21st) and sunset would be between 5 and 6 PM.

[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want the clock to move forward an hour in the winter so that the sun sets later during the evening, since that's the time I'm most productive, lol. I'm perfectly fine with 8-9 AM sunrises.

I'm discussing all this in fun. Nothing to be taken seriously here.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago

Ok. Fully agreed.

That's "daylight savings time", not "standard time".

Standard time = bad. DST leaves you with that extra hour of daylight in the evening.

[–] jungle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's only one way to get more sunlight during winter days: Move closer to the equator or, better yet, to the opposite hemisphere.

Maybe we should implement Morning Daylight Saving Time and Afternoon Daylight Saving Time, where we all change our clocks at 1 pm every day back to 12 noon, and then again at midnight we set them to 1 am.

Hmm. We could do even better: shift by 2 or 3 hours every day, and so we'd get that much more productivity out of our employees! Smithers, go tell everybody!

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's change our clocks every day so it's always sunrise at 6:25.

[–] jungle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No thanks, that would mean it's dark at 2pm here in December.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then let's change our clocks so 12:00 pm is always the exact middle of the day.

[–] jungle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's probably the ideal situation given that you'd never have to change your clock again. Well, except when traveling east or west. And setting up meetings would be a nightmare, like "let's meet tomorrow at... eh, let me see... 4:13 for you Tom, 3:48 for you Sam, 7:24 for you Jane, oh, you have another meeting at 7:41... Ok, how about... Uhm..."

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, pretty much what lead to time zones in the first place. And yes, you'd have to change your clock every day as each day is shorter (or longer) than the last one.