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    Saved my ass a few times (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
    submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by lordgoose@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
     
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    [–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 55 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Imagine having backups and not being on the testing branch of the beta version of a distro while running a custom kernel that is on alpha (Context, im on testing branch of fedora 39 beta with the asahi kernel)

    [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Am I too NixOS to understand?

    [–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Or ZFS/btrfs snapshots. But yes, NixOS does it right.

    [–] nicoweio@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

    Timeshift can make use of BTRFS snapshots btw

    [–] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

    btrfs + snapper + pacman-hook = happiness

    [–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I just use btrfs and snapper.

    [–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

    I "use" it too. I don't really do anything, it came setup like this out of the box with my distro and it just does it's thing until I mess up hard.

    [–] jvrava9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I swear I used timeshift so much when using a NVIDIA card

    [–] practisevoodoo@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

    Ditto.

    1. Install OS, timeshift.
    2. Get Nvidia, CUDA and CuDnn all playing together, timeshift.
    3. Install everything else safe in the knowledge that no matter how badly I break things at least I won't have to do step 2 again.
    [–] Yuki@kutsuya.dev 10 points 11 months ago

    Or just like, you know, learn about what you did n fix it .-.

    [–] lapommedeterre@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    What's a good overview of time shift?

    [–] lordgoose@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    It makes a copy of your entire system automatically (and your home folder if you want it to) so, in the event that you break something and can't/don't want to fix it, you can go back to your most recent back-up from before you messed your system up. I've had to use it a few times because I installed some drivers for my drawing tablet that broke more than they fixed and I didn't want to deal with the pain in the ass of removing them and all of the dependencies they installed.

    [–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    How is this different than a regular backup? Not salty, just curious.

    [–] rollerbang@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 months ago

    I believe it's using a feature built-in directly in the filesystem.

    I'm just curious if it's possible to browse individual snapshots like in MacOS Time Machine and fetch individual files out.

    [–] DrRatso@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

    Now mind you, everything I write might be wrong, I am out of my depth here.

    But as I understand a BTRFS snapshot is simply a (subvolume in which you will find) copy of the table that points to the actual files or, rather, blocks on your drive. As long as a table exists that points to a block, this block will persist.

    The nature of BTRFS is Copy-on-Write so in your active snapshot, when you modify a file / block, a copy of it is created with the new version, referencing this new block on the filesystem table.

    This is why BTRFS snapshots are fast and take little space by themselves, you do not need to actually copy all the data at the moment of creating the backup, rather when the data is modified and only that data.

    [–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

    Timeshift saves!

    [–] digitalturtle@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

    Oh the number of times that I have tweaked something only to only have to start over is too damn high!

    [–] EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

    When you use a journaled filesystem .... what are backups?

    [–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Timeshift worked exactly once for me, and by once I mean it messsd up my entire system so I had to install something else instead

    [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    If you don't test your restores, you don't actually have a backup. You have to test the config first to make sure it works for how your system is setup. An all defaults system should work out of the box, but if you start to alter and customize your system in ways that the backup is not configured to handle, you are in deep risk.

    [–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    i hate tinkering so i would never do anything that disturbs the system itself, timeahift advertises itself as a backup system, never seen anywhere that said backup needs to be tested, whatever that even means. besides i shouldn't have to do that to begin with.

    [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

    never seen anywhere that said backup needs to be tested

    I don't know what to tell you, you must be really new, because recovery tests are the first thing that is said when discussing backups. It's the backbone of systems operations. If you don’t test your backups for recoverability, you really don’t have backups at all. is a widespread saying in the tech industry.

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    [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 11 months ago

    Daily timeshift ftw!

    [–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

    When you have backup kernel:

    Is that a problem?