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Linux vs Windows tested in 10 games - Linux 17% faster on Average::Computers, hardware, software and gaming in Spanish and English

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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 90 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Windows has so much garbage overhead via telemetry, etc. Glad to see someone quantifying how detrimental it is.

[–] taaz@biglemmowski.win 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AVs on windows also do impact disk latency a lot.

[–] TheOSINTguy@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not to also mention the outdated filesytem

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We should rename NTFS to OTFS now.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

For real - it would be AWESOME if you could install windows on ZFS or btrfs or whatever

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Windows telemetry CPU usage is almost nothing. This is mostly proton/dxvk doing it's magic.

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Steam Deck and Proton have done wonders for Linux compatibility efforts.

However looking at NEW releases I actually want to play, many launch barely working on windows let a lone via proton / emulation. My back catalog has great support but we need more titles launching with official support.

The worst thing has to be all of the "launchers / game stores" JUST GIVE US GAMES!

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Even "good" companies like BG3 makers. Are making it harder to play without signing into their launcher.

There's an extra screen now, which is extremely unintuitive to get to, to skip their launcher sign in :(

[–] optissima@possumpat.io 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just add this to your launch parameters:

--skip-launcher
[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Works for Cyberpunk too

[–] gondezee@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Limited to amd though, yea? Nvidia still holding back their drivers?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Nvidia is their own worst enemy as regards Linux. When everyone realizes games work better under Linux and AMD, nVidia will be crying outside the gate. We're 5 years into Proton, in another 5 years there won't be a game that doesn't run better on Linux.

[–] mindlight@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

When everyone realizes games work better under Linux and AMD, nVidia will be crying outside the gate.

So you think Microsoft spends 8 billion dollars acquiring Bethesda Game Studios, Arkane Studios, id Software, MachineGames, Tango Gameworks, ZeniMax Online Studios in 2020 and then proceeds to spend 68 billion dollars on acquiring Activision Blizzard...

... just to stand on the sidelines watching everyone drop Windows as a gaming platform?

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[–] PorkTaco@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

nVidia will be crying outside the gate

Yeeeeaaah I really doubt it sorry

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[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago

Well, that's what happens when you don't have crazy spyware services running in the background. Also Windows, just like any Microsoft product, is very inefficient and wastes lots of resources.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Man, I am really looking forward to fully ditching Windows.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's no time better than the present 😀 Windows free since April!

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[–] Resol@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (9 children)

My next gaming PC is gonna be Linux. There, I said it.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Virtually any computer that isn't Apple Silicon can install Linux on it and it'll run smoother and faster than Win or Mac.

People who are anti-Linux either don't understand computers or are traumatized from the early 2000s

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[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Kittenstix@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You know it's super easy to change your operating system right? Lol

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It must be very hard to exactly compare games between Windows and Linux because it's possible that emulation in Proton, WINE or the driver means some settings or extensions might not be enabled even if they appear to be. DirectX emulation is also bound to slow things down so a game probably has to be use OpenGL or Vulkan directly.

So while I can well believe that Linux can keep up and possibly exceed Windows, it needs a careful technical eye to ensure a true comparison is happening.

[–] IntrepidIceIgloo@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] arc@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Wine is an emulator. It might not have started as such when it was winelib but it is now, especially when running binaries. If in doubt read their own FAQ where they take pains to describe it depends what you're doing and what is meant by emulation.

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[–] dbilitated@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

but the E literally stands for emulator

(I'm kidding)

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago

Just in case someone sees this and doesn't understand all this, WINE is an acronym that literally means "WINE Is Not an Emulator."

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[–] FrankLaskey@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is impressive and interesting, but what about hardware ray tracing support? Proton has been very impressive but I thought that RT on DX12 was basically non-existent on Linux.

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[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That’s great and all, but can I still pirate games on Linux? (Don’t judge me)

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's better I fact. There's a lot less worry about installing a virus.

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 21 points 1 year ago

(Not so) fun fact, a lot of Windows viruses work under Wine on Linux. If you have ransomware bundled with your pirated media, it will likely also encrypt your Linux files.

Use Bottles as a Flatpak, isolate all your applications from each other and from your host system.

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[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah just add the game as a non steam game to steam and click play.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago

GN came to a weaker conclusion when they were looking at one of the handhelds (I want to say the asus ROG?), although they just attributed that to the device rather than claim it was the OS.

But most of this reminds me of how Elden Ring was significantly more performant "on steam deck" at launch. And that was mostly because all shaders had to be precached which had implications on how From were streaming content. Which is likely why stuff like mortal kombat 1 apparently forces players to wait for shaders before they can play.

[–] Gerula@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's also like saying that bloating an OS with spyware and useles eyecandy it makes it use hardware resources ineficiently. But of course that's not the case with Micro$oft.

[–] 01011@monero.town 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I remember when I used to run games via Wine over 15 years ago and they performed better than on similar hardware running Windows.

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