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Republican Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, in his first remarks after being elected Wednesday afternoon, told Members of Congress that “Scripture” and “the Bible” are clear that they have been “ordained” by God.

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[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 244 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Democrats should name all their laws after the Bible. Eye of the Needle bill: wealth tax and just demagogue that we need to pass this to save American souls. Mark 1:40 bill: universal healthcare

[–] Iunnrais@lemm.ee 96 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I legitimately and unironically would support this initiative. It’s a good idea.

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[–] Steve@communick.news 41 points 1 year ago

I can't describe how much I like this idea.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's a great idea but unfortunately it has some significant flaws.

First, I imagine quite a lot of the Christianity in American politics is performative. The politicians could just hand wave away the passages and say "That's not what Jesus meant, he personally told me so".

The fundamentalists suckers would believe them and vote for them even harder and the ones that are drawn to religion for the excuse to abuse people won't care as long as their abusive itches get scratched.

The other problem is that if it did work, it's comes across as more than a little Christofascist.

The far-right and religious "in it for abuse" crowds would take to it like flies to dog shit and the bible has some horrific stuff in it that you'd definitely never want becoming law.

Better to just pry fundamentalists and neoliberals from power so all they can do is seethe while progressives pass these kinds of laws. With genuine end times just around the corner, time is a factor.

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 190 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 179 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is no place for religion in government. This is horrifying

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Even Jesus thought so. "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" means exactly that.

[–] trafficnab@lemmy.ca 90 points 1 year ago

If those Christian nationalists could read they'd be very upset

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Like these asshats have ever read the Bible. At least, nothing past the old testament.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 131 points 1 year ago (17 children)

What is the difference between this guy and a Taliban officer?

I don't care how much he enjoys talking about his favorite fairy tale novel, congress is not a book club.

[–] ExistentialKiwi@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Zero difference. They're both the same shade of conservative, far-right, religious fundamentalist.

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 110 points 1 year ago (12 children)

"I believe that Scripture, the Bible is very clear that God is the one that raises up those in authority."

Oh, so since God raised Biden to Authority that means you're going to respect God's plan right?

Lol... Yeah... You'll all continue to pay lip service to the Bible as long as it serves your purpose.

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[–] theluddite@lemmy.ml 98 points 1 year ago
[–] TryingToEscapeTarkov@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago (36 children)

Fuck your religion. Keep that shit out of politics please.

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[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 91 points 1 year ago (9 children)

And the Constitution and its Amendments are very clear about a separation of church and state.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Some idiots think it means the government can't do anything to regulate churches. There a bunch of laws that disagree.

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[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Quetiapine 50mg, twice per day. Increase dosage if voices persist

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[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 89 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude really pulled the “divine right” card huh?

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 132 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The French invented a wonderful device to cure sufferers of the divine right delusion:

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Leaders claiming divinity leave the proletariat no choice but to demand proof

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fortunately it's a testable hypothesis

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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Imagine if religious fundamentalism wasn't acceptable for a statesman. What a crazy modern world we could be living in.

Although I guess in the case of the US, the country was founded out of religious fundamentalism in its entirely, and from a clean slate. Much more difficult to untangle it.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unless my history lessons are evading me, your country was founded by deists running from fundamentalists.

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Fundamentalists running from people not letting them be as fundamentalist as they wanted.

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having said this- he should be disqualified from office.

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[–] Steve@communick.news 69 points 1 year ago (4 children)

“I don’t believe there are any coincidences in a manner like this. I believe that Scripture, the Bible is very clear that God is the one that raises up those in authority. He raised up each of you, all of us. And I believe that God has ordained and allowed each one of us to be brought here for this specific moment in this time. This is my belief. I believe that each one of us has a huge responsibility today, to use the gifts that God has given us to serve the extraordinary people of this great country and they deserve it.”

That includes the Democrats, right?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

On but that includes like Stalin too, like does he not hear his words?

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so thats what bile tastes like

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 67 points 1 year ago

This seditionist asshat shouldn't even be allowed to be in politics anymore. The more we allow people to try to overturn elections, the more impossible it will be to stay a democracy.

[–] ohmyiv@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He did it. He said the magic words that turn on a neverending money tap from "christian" conservatives who aren't smart enough to tell when they're getting grifted.

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[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He believes that all leaders are raised up by the hand of God. Better get those sainthoods lined up for Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Putin, Mugabe, etc.

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[–] kttnpunk@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Somebody get me outta this backwards country 🥺

[–] GONADS125@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We're either almost on the other side of the critical failure of trumpism, or we're about to fulfill our destiny to actualize idiocracy.

I give it 50/50 odds either way..

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[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Again, what is the difference between this and Taliban?

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[–] Harpsist@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If you express grandiose delusions you should be sitting in a psychiatric chair. Not a senate chair.

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

I believe that Scripture, the Bible is very clear that God is the one that raises up those in authority.

I'm not sure which would be worse: that he didn't think this claim through to its logical conclusion, or that he did and didn't see the problem.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

God is the one that raises up those in authority.

Someone really needs to ask him about Biden now

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[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Another fucking zealot, great.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.

Barry Goldwater

Also relevant:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1981/09/16/goldwater-lashes-religious-pressure/b1caa379-49fa-4e04-82de-dccda6f5e7f9/

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[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

And here I thought it was pretty clear that the basis for his authority is the constitution, not in scripture.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State. -- Thomas Jefferson

But it is long past the time when the GOP cared for what the founding fathers said.

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[–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can we get a citation? I've actually read the bible, and no it doesn't.

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[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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