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we are defederated from lemmit.online as the bots there was just far too much already but I'm curious about whether we should do the same for alien.top and or its sister instances (there's a lot).

If you aren't aware of what that is, it's a site ran by another instance that mirrors reddit content over into ghost subs and mirrors the comments as well.

Personally? I'm not a fan. Like, at all. I understand the desire but I feel like its not only asking for Reddit to throw down with a legal fit but also feels just... annoying. We don't need a critical mass of content, we need QUALITY content. More does not equal better.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely not a fan of the bots just reposting stuff to lemmy.

[–] scetron@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Agreed, I do not like them, just adds lots of empty posts with little interaction.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

The repost bots make the site feel empty. Tons of junk with no interaction.

[–] Rottcodd 14 points 1 year ago

I loathe it with every fiber of my being.

I detest bot content in general, and bot reposts of Reddit content is the absolute bottom of the barrel. It's not just tedious and unimaginative and unengaging - I honestly find it creepy, like someone stalking an ex-lover.

[–] wolf6152@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

I’m not a fan and I don’t think it drives user engagement. What’s the point of commenting and interacting if I know it’s never going to be seen by the original user?

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only thing that bothers me are the tags people add to them like [Stolen from Reddit] or w/e.

If it's content that might be interesting to folks here, fuggit, post it. But don't point back to Reddit when you do it - that just directs traffic back to that shithole and kills the conversation here cuz no one wants to engage with anything that has a big neon REDDIT sign hanging on it.

[–] Impronoucabl 12 points 1 year ago

If a user reposts quality content, I.e curates their own selection of reddit posts, AND the community upvotes their selections, then I don't mind.

Otherwise, it's literally spam.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 10 points 1 year ago

I've got less of a stake here since I'm a "guest", but I've blocked both of those on my instance for the same reasons.

Lemmy feels like a fresh start, and those are just bringing noise and old baggage.

[–] Eq0 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the things I like of lemmy is the limited content. I can keep up with all the posts and comments of the communities I like. So being flooded with copied content odd counterproductive in my opinion. And copping the comments as well feels creepy and morally dubious.

[–] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

When I see it, I down vote it hoping others will too.

[–] nlm 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, first thing I did was to block a few reddit mirroring bots. That cleared my All feed from a bunch of dead threads.

[–] gabe 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What did you block if you dont mind me asking? We should be defederated from them all, but if there's more I don't know I can add them.

[–] nlm 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had my accountsn mixed up, but one bot i blocked was bot@lemmit.online

[–] gabe 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah we've been defederated from them for a bit

[–] nlm 1 points 1 year ago
[–] nlm 4 points 1 year ago

Uh good question! It might have been on another account.. how do you find your blocklist?

[–] CaptObvious 5 points 1 year ago

I agree that it’s annoying and not productive to have content mirrored from Reddit. I’d be in favor of defederating from instances that relay too much of their content.

[–] JaymesRS 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some of the ebookdeals I post come from an rss feed I watch from r/ebookdeals. But I just use that as a trigger to post them in my own style and definitely don’t repost all of them by far.

I think generally I’m against straight up mirroring though. Especially the concept of mirroring comments, I expect to be able to interact with commenters.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Meme posts, maybe. Discussion posts, no.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If the content is worth posting, it's worth posting. Where else it's been posted before would only matter to the insecure.

[–] hersh 1 points 1 year ago

Mirroring comments sounds awful and not worth engaging with.

Linking to Reddit also seems like a bad idea. If I wanted to engage with Reddit, I'd be on Reddit.

Cross-posting links that were popular on Reddit into relevant communities here seems like a fine idea, though. I DO want quality links here, and for discussion to grow organically around those links here, on Lemmy. For example, a community like !ebookdeals@literature.cafe is built around links. If there's a similar active community on Reddit, I would indeed appreciate it if someone cross-posted the good deals here.

I think there is value in users cross-posting from Reddit, but bots doing it indiscriminately seems spammy, and could well destroy a community.