Shit like this should be illegal and should allow company to be seized.
this post was submitted on 24 Oct 2023
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It is illegal, but the US is completely toothless with enforcement on anyone with any amount of wealth.
Thankfully, Biden recently gave the IRS some teeth to go after millionaires who rely on tax dodging. So there's hope as long as a criminal isn't put in charge to de-teeth the government again.
And hopefully the pendulum doesn't swing too far next year for all that effort to be rolled back
The penalties are also so minimal that it's cheaper to re-offend
"If two people who don't normally speak to each other start speaking, they may be organising"
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Warning signs include terms like "living wage".... fuck me for wanting to live, right?
Yes, fuck you, your mother, your daughter, your son, your grandmother, and granddaughter f ok r wanting to b able to afford to not die.fuck all y'all! Happy fall
Crazy
We're not anti-union but we hire the actual fucking Pinkertons to stalk and intimidate you!
Makes me wonder if we might have battles with them again. States that are anti union also have stand your ground laws.
I'd like to take this chance to say
Fuck Amazon. Fuck this video. Fuck Amazon. Fuck whoever thinks this is okay. Fuck their management. Fuck this union busting bullshit. Fucking make these assholes pay taxes. Fucking break their shit company up. Also fuck Amazon.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
That's a lot of fucking. Anyone got any lube?
Nah man, Amazon needs it raw, uncut, and dry.
Why bother?
I got a cactus.
Just goes to show you that unions work, otherwise they would not be so scared of it.
You might not interpret the motive as based on fear, if you think your employer loves you wants to make you happy and feel protected.
Umm, that wouldn't change the truth? I guess I'm confused about what your argument is...
If everyone already knew the truth, then most arguments would be without value.
Are you trying to say that these videos work because most people do not know the truth?
If that's your point then I agree. But it sounds kinda like you're implying that everyone already knows unions are good and for that reason we should stop saying that they are. Which is patently false.
Someone who relates to employers as though they were benevolent would reach a different conclusion from you about the motive for the presentation.
I think there is no great complexity beneath the observation.
Someone who relates to employers as though they were benevolent would be incorrect in the case against unions though? Unions have shown to be nearly universally beneficial to the workers that participate in them. That is not my opinion. That is verifiable fact.
If a company was strictly benevolent as you've claimed then why contest the union? Why negotiate terms at all? Just hear what the employees en mass want and sign your name on the dotted line. The fact that this does not happen, and we constantly see company's hire law firms to bust the unions or otherwise drag their feet to apply changes to company structure upon reaching a compromise is objectively evidence that the company is not benevolent.
If unions didn't work then there would not be unions.
Just so you know, some people really do hold beliefs that are incorrect.
Reminder that Whole Foods is notoriously easy to shoplift from.
Wow be on the lookout for people talking to people they didn't talk to before, or people being upset, this is thought police, this is actually, literally, fucking 1984!
"Workers have the right to unionize, but-"
“We’re not anti-union, but we’re not neutral either.”
Well Amazon, you’re not pro-union, so what exactly are you? ‘Cause that pretty much covers the full spectrum.
"We're not anti-union, but fuck unions"
Union words: living wage, grievance, contract, representation
Yea, but I want my bug spray delivered to my door for a few small coins less /s
Holy shit is this badly done. Starting with no answers whatsoever, why unions are regarded as bad except for "but our customers and partners!" and then a huge load of infodump about potential signs..
Explaining why they think unions are bad requires them explaining what a union even is.
Not partners, but shareholders. It doesn’t beat around the bush. It outright says “unions are not in the best interest for shareholders”
I was thinking about this the other day and while I'm sure they would never admit it, I think the reason Amazon is so anti-union is to prepare for automation.
Whenever they can reliably replace all the low-income employees with robots, they will do so. If employees had a union they might be able to stop or slow the replacement of people with robots.
I don't understand the media professionals who made this. How can you live with yourself?
They've unionised and got fuck you money.
"Speed...and customer obsession are not typically associated with unions." Gee, you think?
Usually giant companies like Amazon are overly concerned with optics. So one would think that the long list of "warning signs" to look for in your coworkers' behavior would have made someone go "hey, maybe we should make this a little less fascist before we ok it." Jesus fucking christ.
I can't get past the awful animated guy
They couldn't get professionals to do the video because the professionals are union members.
We didn't get a video, but my first employer (Food Lion, a grocery store) did give us almost an identical spiel about once a year as "mandatory training".
Now do the home depot one