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[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, the Federation was only founded after a world war decimated the human population. And I also think, looking at our world, that we are more likely to be the mirror dimension anyway.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

we are more likely to be the mirror dimension anyway.

We should all do routine checks to make sure we don't have goatees, excessive eyeliner, or suddenly start wearing sexy clothing.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

.....i have a goatee oh god

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That means there's a non-evil version of you out there somewhere!

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

...Imma fuck his mom.

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[–] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Shit, that's how I dress every day...

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[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Just to be clear star trek also had a nuclear war

[–] 1simpletailer@startrek.website 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the Whales go extinct. The Star Trek timeline isn't as bright and cheery as most people believe. The franchise has always been collapse-aware, its just not front and center. Gene Roddenberry just envisioned that post capitalist collapse (And with the discovery of intelligent alien life) that humanity would be able to rebuild better from the ashes.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

We only know that humpback whales go extinct. The rest of the whales could be doing fine in the 23rd century.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago

Also I believe Star Trek is speculative fiction.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I dream of Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I think the whole lack of sustainable fusion thing may be a slightly larger factor than capitalism.

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recommend the book Trekonomics if you want to challenge this notion. Basically, technologies like sustainable fusion, replicators, etc, are the result of a post-scarcity leave-no-one-behind philosophy, rather than its prerequisites.

I'll check it out, thanks 🖖

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So close it sounds like it'll be happening in our lifetime.

I think it's sounded like that for the past 40 years, but I am hopeful.

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[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Maybe when we live in a post singularity society where everything we want can be printed for free.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If by post scarcity you mean Western workers produce seven times more value in goods than they consume over their lifetime, guess what?

Don't worry though, we still have forty more years of nuclear genocide to meet the deadline.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Where are all these goods going?

And we produce far less than Asia. So they must be producing like 70 times what they consume.

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[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s why we rely on Asian slaves and indentured Mexican servitudes to keep us on the top.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 9 points 1 year ago

That's for the love of the game, not a necessity.

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We already have enough for everyone, if we just toned it down a bit.

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[–] TheDrunkard@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I also noticed that religion was absent from most of the star trek stories, and usually, if at all, was associated with an underdeveloped culture, and they would most likely be warlike and a threat.

[–] TransientPunk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Did you not watch Deep Space 9?

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, they pretty clearly stated that humanity had moved beyond religion, money, enslaving animals for meat (Riker's words), etc.

Whenever they wanted to show this stuff, they had to run into another civilization.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

enslaving animals for meat (Riker’s words)

Yet in season one of PIcard he hunts meat he could have easily replicated.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Imagine if the Enterprise was constructed by the lowest bidding government contractor.

Also: Why aren't we at least the Farenghi?

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When reporters asked (Alan) Shepard what he thought about as he sat atop the Redstone rocket, waiting for liftoff, he had replied, ‘The fact that every part of this ship was built by the lowest bidder.’

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[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No alien species will sell us warp.

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[–] bi_tux@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I like to think, that Star Trek and Fallout play in the same universe/timeline

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