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A Staten Island woman buying pot from a local deli got into a misunderstanding with the cashier — who ended up macing her, dragging​ her outside by her hair, kicking her in the head and mistakenly calling her trans.

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[–] darq@kbin.social 342 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This is the consequence of the hatred that transphobes, garden variety conservatives and TERFs alike, have stoked. And the narrative that the media has gleefully ran with.

Being visibly trans or gender-non-conforming nowadays is genuinely scary in a way I think a lot of people don't fully understand. And of course when femininity is being policed, women of colour tend to suffer too, even if they are cisgender.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 161 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When you're so anti-trans you loop around and become anti-cis.

I think these people might just be anti-women.

DING DING DING. They can "get away with" hating trans women more easily, but it's just a stepping stone on the way to Gilead for them.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Racism, Misogyny and transphobia have always come from a similar place and build off of each other. They share the same narratives and the same desire for ostracization and oppression. Bigots will always ally with other bigots, as this hatred is not rational and only someone with similarly irrational hate could support you. Dig enough in bigoted communities and you are certain to find all different kinds of hatred.

That's why TERF communities are infested with homophobia, misogyny, racism, antisemitism and Islamophobia. Over time the concentration of white supremacy and nazism has grown exponentially in terf communities. Nazis share many of the same goals and many of the same conspiracies that terfs do. And prominent terfs like Kelly Jay Keen openly ally with Christian white nationalists around the world.

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[–] maxenmajs@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

The instigators responsible will keep getting away with it. They're very careful to use the right dog whistles and key words to avoid getting deplatformed and they still cause their followers to act like this.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago

Being visibly trans or gender-non-conforming nowadays

And she's neither of those things anyhow. She will find out the guy's name & address in Discovery & he will go to prison for hate crime + assault.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I feel we need to change that little children's rhyme to be a bit more accurate

"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can lead to pogroms" or something like that

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 208 points 1 year ago (8 children)

When she called 911 after getting home, cops showed up but she was told she needed to go back to the scene, which is in a different precinct from her home, and call 911 from there.

Cops will move heaven and earth to not prosecute the criminals they like. Especially corrupt racist-ass NYPD.

[–] Misconduct@startrek.website 57 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

"Brown, a former NYPD captain, noted police are obligated to take a report no matter where the crime occurred and that forcing crime victims to return to where they were attacked is traumatizing. The NYPD said Adams told the 911 dispatcher she would go to the scene, suggesting she voluntarily offered to do so."

"Regardless, when Adams went back to the grocery and called for police from there, it took officers four hours to show up, she said. The officers, she said, appeared to know the attacker, referring to him as “Mr. Fourth of July.”'

JFC

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 187 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Almost like pointless hate makes the world a bit shitter.

[–] Amilo159@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

Disagree. Not a bit, a whole lot more shittier.

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 170 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is what transphobia has to offer. Transphobia and TERFS are inherently misogynistic because they start to attack every single woman that doesn't fit into the worldview of a few people.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Yeah, transohibia, anti gay, racism, anti immigrant, anti religion - intolerance is ugly, evil and the worst of humanity

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[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 149 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it still a hate crime if they were wrong about the person's identity? Imo it should be.

[–] gavran@lemmy.world 131 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

If you committed a crime because of the perception of an individual falling under a protected class, it should qualify as a hate crime. I believe this is considered a bias incident and it is treated as a hate crime in NYC.

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Of course it qualifies as a hate crime. Hate crime legislation is entirely about what you think inside your head as you commit some other crime - hence the word "hate".

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 60 points 1 year ago (5 children)

IIRC NY is a transfer of intent state, that is to say if you intended to kill X person but fucked up and killed Y person instead, you're still guilty of 1st degree murder, because you still intended to do a murder

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[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 136 points 1 year ago

Oh that sounds like a perfectly normal reaction to someone different from you

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 110 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, this is being called a misunderstanding? I don't think whoever wrote that actually understands that word...

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The misunderstanding was what started the fight (he thought she was haggling for prices, not that she was trying to verify the price of things to make sure she bought the right weed for her friend), not the transphobic attack.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 year ago

We're getting physical with people for haggling prices now? Canal street about to get wild.

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[–] RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

As in: 'Miss, understand, I don't give a fuck about your rights.'

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago

A sad reminder that transphobia and other forms of hate affect us all, not just the ones who are primarily targeted.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 68 points 1 year ago

Haggling isn't illegal. She needs to sue the deli owner as well for hiring & protecting that shithead. I hope she takes everything they have.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Are you guys over the Atlantic feeling well? Is everything ok?

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[–] Parabola@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What does the pot have to do with someone being a hateful idiot? I’m not sure what the headline is trying to tell me

[–] BROMETHIUS@startrek.website 55 points 1 year ago

She looks like a trans and she smokes the pot! She deserved it!

/s if not obvious enough

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Victim blaming. "She's a filthy bisexual pot buyer!" It wasn't even for her.

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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The cops knew the attacker and subsequently avoided any real investigation. Classic bastard behavior.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The headline just kept getting worse huh?

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[–] S_204@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Key takeaway.... they sell weed at deli's in NYC?

That's interesting. Around here it's all thru a licensed shop.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago

Geez this is where we're at. Fueled by Fox and the right wing needing a bogeyman at all times.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow, that was a pretty insane sentence...

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] teft@startrek.website 75 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A Staten Island woman buying pot from a local deli got into a misunderstanding with the cashier — who ended up macing her, dragging​ her outside by her hair, kicking her in the head and mistakenly calling her trans.

​The shocking caught-on-video attack has left Jasmine Adams traumatized, her distress compounded by no arrest being made.

But on Monday, she moved a step closer to possible justice when her lawyer, Robert Brown, filed a discrimination suit in Staten Island Supreme Court against the West Brighton Deli Grocery & Grill.

The suit alleges that Adams, who is bisexual, was attacked because the cashier “perceived plaintiff to be transgender.” The NYPD confirmed Adams provided the same account to police when she reported the incident.

​”Even if I was a transvestite, what does that have to do with anything?” asked Adams, 35, who was wearing an Apple watch wristband adorned with pride rainbow colors when she was attacked.

“Why were you so comfortable putting your hands on me? I wasn’t being aggressive. I didn’t have any weapon. I was a customer.”

The worker has been fired, but the store, on Henderson Ave. near Campbell Ave., has not cooperated in helping to identify him, police said.

Brown said cops dropped the ball by failing to release the video to the media, as they often do when it is trying to identify and locate a suspect, and by conducting just one cursory phone interview with the victim. The Hate Crime Task Force is involved in the case, police said, but Brown noted that no investigator from that unit has contacted Adams.

Adams, a mother of two who manages a home for disabled adults, stopped at the grocery to buy marijuana for a friend around 11:30 p.m. July 28. The West Brighton Deli Grocery where assault Victim 35yr old Jasmine Adams, seated inside the Offices of her Attorney, Robert Brown, talks to the News about her ordeal suffered by the hands of an employee inside the West Brighton Deli Grocery Bodega in Staten Island. Friday October 6, 2023. (Theodore Parisienne)

Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News The West Brighton Deli Grocery & Grill where Jasmine Adams was attacked. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)

Weed has been legal in the city since 2021 but so far, there are currently only nine dispensaries in New York City licensed to sell marijuana. Hundreds of other shops nonetheless sell pot products.

Because she’s not a smoker, Adams had her friend on the phone as she made the $40 purchase, asking questions to make sure she was making the right choice. The clerk mistook her conversation as an attempt to haggle for a lower price.

“I said it wasn’t about the price and that I was just trying to figure out what I was buying,” Adams said. “So I paid. But he sucked his teeth and got mad and me and threw [the marijuana packet] on the floor.” Cellphone footage shows Jasmine Adams being dragged out of Staten Island bodega. Cell phone footage shows Jasmine Adams being dragged out of Staten Island bodega.

An insulted Adams opted not to pick the weed up off the floor and asked for her money back.

“He said I was trying to get him fired and that he was going to call the cops,” she recounted. “I said, ‘Call the cops! I just want my money back.’ Then I heard him call me a transvestite. I’m like, ‘Transvestite? I’m a whole female. I have lady parts.'” Cellphone footage shows Jasmine Adams being dragged out of Staten Island bodega. Cellphone footage shows Jasmine Adams being dragged out of Staten Island bodega.

The next moments were a blur.

Before she could duck, the attacker maced her in the face, she said, then ran around the counter toward her. Barely able to see, she remembered grabbing a coffee pot and swinging it at him.

She doesn’t know if she hit him, but he grabbed her by her long hair.

As she was being pulled from the store, called a “b—h” and dragged down three concrete steps, several young people were outside recording on their smartphones, some reacting in shock to the assault.

“Oh, my God!” one woman can be heard yelling in video obtained by the Daily News.

“You don’t have to do all that,” another person says.

The worker threw her to the concrete and kicked her in the head, the video shows.

“Next thing I know when I opened my eyes, I was outside next to my car on the floor,” Adams said. “I said to myself that I gotta get outta here because I don’t know if he’s going to kill me.” Jasmine Adams is pictured in Staten Island on Friday, Oct. 6, 2023. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)

Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News Jasmine Adams is pictured in Staten Island on Friday. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)

Adams somehow drove off in her car but stopped about a block later and flagged down a couple she did not know, getting their help taking her home. Jasmine Adams is pictured in Staten Island on Friday, Oct. 6, 2023. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)

Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News Adams says she feared for her life during the attack. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)

When she called 911 after getting home, cops showed up but she was told she needed to go back to the scene, which is in a different precinct from her home, and call 911 from there.

Brown, a former NYPD captain, noted police are obligated to take a report no matter where the crime occurred and that forcing crime victims to return to where they were attacked is traumatizing. The NYPD said Adams told the 911 dispatcher she would go to the scene, suggesting she voluntarily offered to do so.

Regardless, when Adams went back to the grocery and called for police from there, it took officers four hours to show up, she said. The officers, she said, appeared to know the attacker, referring to him as “Mr. Fourth of July.” Jasmine Adams is pictured in Staten Island on Friday, Oct. 6, 2023. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)

Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News Strangers helped Adams get home after the attack. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)

Adams, who was bruised and cut as she was dragged and kicked, didn’t realize video of the attack was on Facebook until she was alerted by a co-worker. She showed it to her mom, who cried but didn’t watch it herself until recently.

“I tried to suppress what happened,” Adams said. “It makes you feel vulnerable. I like to believe that I’m a strong woman. To me, I wasn’t so strong. It makes me feel weak.”

As crime victims often do, Adams has blamed herself for being out that late and for not just leaving the store after the clerk flung the marijuana to the ground. Her friends have tried to convince her she had every right to stand up for herself.

“But part of me still blames myself,” she said. Jasmine Adams and her attorney Robert Brown are pictured in Staten Island on Friday, Oct. 6, 2023. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)

Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News Adams and her attorney Robert Brown on Friday. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)

Workers at the store told The News they remembered the incident but referred all questions to a manager, who ignored requests for comment.

Adams turned to her pillars of strength, her mother and grandmother, before deciding to file a suit.

“They said that what happened to you is not right and that you need to let everyone know that,” Adams said. “For me, it’s not about the money. Whatever my sexual preference is, it shouldn’t be questioned when I walk in the store.”

[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is good reporting as by the sounds of it the cops had little interest in pursuing anything

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