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[–] Kyoyeou@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Man this creator keeps on giving, making YouTube better than Google does so

[–] Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 years ago (5 children)

It's pretty telling a platform like YouTube really only gets fully enjoyable with an adblocker, sponsorblock and this. I wish PeerTube had a lot of good creators, but last time I checked (years ago, admittedly) it was mostly conspiracy theorists and cryptobros.

[–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The problem with PeerTube is that there's no built-in way for creators to get paid. If there are no ads or sponsors, then the only alternative is some kind of value for value system like what Podcasting 2.0 has. Until some kind of well integrated funding system gets built for PeerTube, creators really are not going to be incentivized to publish stuff on the platform.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 years ago

Best I can think of, would be implementing Librepay into PeerTube and make payments easy af.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Tilvids.com is probably the best place for good creators on PeerTube.

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[–] Knusper@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

https://tilvids.com has some reasonable ones, although they're often just as well YouTubers, so you get similar clickbait, unfortunately.

[–] tau@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

adblocker, sponsorblock and this

I'd even add Unhook (hide Trending, Shorts, Merch, replace "Home Feed" with subscriptions etc.) and Age Restriction Bypass (avoid the need to verify your account with a credit card). I also use Clickbait Remover. It essentially does the same as DeArrow without the crowdsourcing, which is already good enough for me.

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[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I mean yes but also it's not that hard. Google is not trying to give you a great experience, they're trying to drive clicks to ads.

[–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I did the opposite. I installed an addon that adds Mr Beast to every thumbnail.

[–] BitingChaos@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I need a mod for my phone my that just makes every icon a picture of some character with their mouth wide open, yelling.

(refer to this reddit post for what I mean)

Calculator? Someone yelling.

Settings? Someone yelling.

Camera app? Believe it or not, someone yelling.

[–] mdwalters@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago

i tried that too, its one of my favourite extensions

[–] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

There’s also a Scott the Woz version, which I have installed

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've used it for exactly three minutes and this is already amazing. I hope it gets integrated into ReVanced and Newpipe.

[–] SmallAlmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would love it on Piped, they already have sponsorblock

[–] Rackarunge@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Never heard of piped. Filling the same niche as revanced?

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Kind of. It's a desktop web front-end to Youtube. I'm not sure whether it blocks in-stream ads (and I'm not turning off Ublock to find out), but it does basically reimplement the Youtube interface without many of its undesired elements.

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[–] Kyogen@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks, I didn't know revanced was a thing. I only enjoyed old vanced for briefly in its last days. So good to hear theres still options like this around.

[–] Acid@startrek.website 10 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Really good extension, I've added it to my browser.

While some creators like Linus have said they dislike the clickbaity titles and thumbnails but they have to do it due to engagement that's simply because the younger generations are the ones engaging with that content. As an older person I'd rather just have a to the point description of what I'm going to get.

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I might get it for the titles alone. The clickbaity thumbnails don't really bother me, but I'd like to have a good title at least.

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[–] restarossa@infosec.pub 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But I don't want to reward people that do this by watching their videos

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

I second this. The only reason click bait trash thumbnails work is people accepting it.

[–] QubaXR@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Love the idea, but just to be the devil's advocate, I think it will just mask garbage videos. Currently, the clickbait thumbnails and titles are an indicator to blacklist a channel, without having to waste time watching it.

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unfortunately because of the way Youtube's algorithm works, even high quality channels are buried if they don't play the game.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, even good ones do it.

[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Got any examples? I don't recall any actually quality and worthwhile channels that still use those dumb thumbnails.

LTT and SmarterEveryDay to name two.

[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

All those channels in the screenshot in this post.

[–] squilox@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Veritasium, he even has a video crunching the numbers as an explanation why he has to doit

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[–] ajay@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If you look at the DeArrow website and browser extension pages, I made sure to only use high quality channels as examples (Tom Scott, CGP Grey) to demonstrate how far reaching the sensationalism problem is.

[–] LichbaneLB@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

CGP Grey is personally painful to me. He used to be a no-nonsense education youtube legend, but in the last few years he's just maximised clickability - even going thorugh his whole back catalogue and changing titles and thumbnails.

For example, he made a great video about generative adversarial networks ~5 years ago but now its titled "How machines like ChatGPT learn" - despite coming out before GPT.

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[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

This sounds like a nice addon, sadly most of my YT consumption is done from my Nvidia Shield TV with STN, so I still get those annoying thumbnails I think (I have them in my home screen and that's where I watch them or add them to the list to watch later within the Shield menu).

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 9 months ago

funny. if the creator used the right side for the xenphone I might click on it.

[–] GammaScorpii@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also be sure to get the restore YouTube dislike button extension

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

As well as uBlock Origin, Sponsorblock and BlockTube.

[–] Gili@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Can't wait to have this on YouTube ReVanced and SmartTube.

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[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

This add-on needs to:

  • Store unlimited amount of client-side data
  • Access your data for sites in the googlevideo.com domain
  • Access your data for sites in the youtube.com domain
  • Access your data for sponsor.ajay.app
  • Access your data for dearrow-thumb.ajay.app
  • Access your data for www.youtube-nocookie.com

This add-on may also ask to: **Access your data for all websites

Is there a better option than for it to need unlimited amount of client-side data? Also, why "Access your data for all websites"?-

[–] ajay@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Creator of theq extension here, that is an optional permissions (may ask). It never asks to access to all sites, it only optionally let's you add support for additional sites such as different Invidious instances. These are arbitrary domains, so it needs permission to ask for any arbitrary website.

Support for invidious is not actually done yet, so right now, it never asks for permission for any new sites anyway

The client side data is used to store your submissions to always show your preferred title, even if there is another submission on the server. You can disable this option in the settings

[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Bro, I seriously would marry you and make you food every day

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[–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Access your data for all websites

It's required to access iframes.

[–] crashez@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But then how do I filter out clickbaity videos?

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

This...if they want to make their thumbnail as pathetic as possible, let them. It's much easier to spot the junk this way.

[–] Lemmyuser_Guest@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We need this on Revanced too. Also on NewpipeXSponserblock.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Google's algorithm has forced people into using click bait thumbnails and titles. If they don't attract more views and subscribers, then their channels are not pushed.

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[–] nameisnotimportant@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I never thought it could be possible to do that, thank you so much for this and making YouTube a better place.

If someone knows how to get rid of shorts in the search results I'd be most grateful 👌

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I kind of like seeing the clickbait, it lets me know which videos/channels arent worth my time. I know most use at least a little clickbait these days, but from the better channels its usually managable and still on topic (like the Real Engineering example shown here, whereas the others are complete clickbait that I would avoid).

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