this post was submitted on 07 Aug 2023
15 points (94.1% liked)

CanadaPolitics

1895 readers
4 users here now

Placeholder for any r/CanadaPolitics refugees

Rules:

All of Lemmy.ca's rules apply

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 13 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So is this just welfare for Alberta's pipeline workers at this point? If so we may as well call it that and spend it directly on people.

[–] TemporaryBoyfriend@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Retraining would be the best bang for the buck. Get people out of the oilfield slop, and get them installing turbines and solar farms.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

For sure. Baby steps. 😄

[–] mark@lemmy.dingo-zebra.ts.net 6 points 1 year ago

What a waste. So much good could be done with that money instead .

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pfft. As time goes on it seems that Trudeau and PP are not that far apart in who they love and obey.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't both-sides those two parties. Learn the difference between 0% beneficial to Canadians and then everything above that.

The reds aren't awesome, but until we fix our voting they're the least-worse we have, and by a significant margin.

[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Genuine question, why do you think Red better than orange?

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both-siding is when someone says both sides have a point to make.

I'm saying both sides are showing very similar shittiness.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Not only that. It's also false-equivalenting them.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

It confuses me, honestly. It's not like the liberals gained any voters in Alberta by spending billions on the construction on this pipeline to keep them happy instead of just denying it's construction which would have gained them voters in the provinces that may actually be swayed by their actions.

There is literally no reason for any political party except conservatives to do anything for central Canada because there's no way anyone there will ever vote for anyone else, other than a few people in Calgary or Edmonton maybe.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Loans have to be paid back, so this is less "flushing tax dollars down the drain" and more "gee whiz I sure wonder where this money could have been spent instead," right?

From that perspective, this is basically an infrastructure grant for Alberta... And frankly, if that's how Alberta wants to use its chunk of federal infrastructure spending, more power to them.

Vancouver gets SkyTrain expansions (and massive housing projects and the corresponding wastewater/landfill infrastructure), Montreal gets the REM, and Alberta gets the Trans Mountain expansion. Sounds fair enough to me.

[–] TemporaryBoyfriend@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, oil companies can absolutely be trusted to not walk away from a dangerous, unremediated, poorly maintained site once the value has been extracted and management has been made even more wealthy.

Oh. Wait. Actually, they leave multi-billion dollar clean-up projects behind when the money runs out, like clockwork.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

And again, Alberta is missing other critical infrastructure as a result and as a province is happy about that.