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[–] Inductor@feddit.de 67 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I always remember that port and left both are the shorter word, and have the same number of letters.

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do we have any red port wine left?

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

There's only a right way to find out

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly, yeah. That's what I relied on as well and what was taught to me. Also what I then taught to the people under me. I have no other real way of understanding it. I know why we use port/starboard but I've never looked into why port/starboard are the words we've stuck with.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

That's easy. We use 'port' because that's the left side, and 'starboard' because that's the other side of the boat.

No, no. No need to thank me. I'm just one humble man trading information gleaned from a long life of learning.

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[–] rob64@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My grandfather was a bomber pilot and he always remembered it by picturing himself flying north along the east coast, where all the ports would be on the left.

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did he never have to fly back?

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[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

That's essentially how I always remember it. Port and left both have 4 letters.

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Also, the old name for "port" is "larboard", which starts with an L for left.

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Additionally, "starboard" has 'r's (for "right").

[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes for "right, then (slaps knees), let's turn left"

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[–] Oszilloraptor@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

But starboard has 2

And two times right is right; less times right is left

[–] Kind@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

and even, as in even numbers.

Port, left, even...all words an even number of letters Starboard, right, odd...all words are an odd number of letters.

[–] jennwiththesea@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Port is short. My BIL taught me that this summer!

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I always picture a drunken sailor asking how much port is left. It works for me.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago

Okay that's infuriatingly clever... I'm going to have to use that.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

And port is red. Green means you're on Starboard and GET THE HELL OUT OF MY WAY!!

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[–] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Is there a reason they don't just say left and right?

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Left and Right rely on the orientation of the person. So if I'm looking ahead at you, and you're looking at me, my left is different than yours. However, port and starboard don't change based on position of the viewer but the position of the vessel. Cuts out any ambiguity.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Like driver's side and passenger side on a car. It doesn't even matter where it was made and it will work out as long as they look for the steering wheel.

*Except the McLaren F1 and probably a few others.

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[–] 7lbmonkey@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Left and right are referenced to yourself, or relative. Port and starboard are referenced to the ship, or absolute.
It's the same reason people who work in theater say "stage right" and "stage left" instead of just "right" and "left."
Imagine being on a boat for weeks, in the middle of the ocean, with no land in sight; it makes a lot of sense that you would think of locations in terms of the ship, as that is your only reference point.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

Nice added touch about the stage directions!

[–] Depress_Mode@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Historically, boats had rudders (or “steer boards”) along the side of the ship instead of in the middle like we’d see them today. It was always on the right side of the boat, so to avoid smashing your rudder into the dock, you’d dock your ship on the other side. That means it was always the left side that literally faced the port, while starboard faced out into open water to protect that side from damage.

[–] Vent@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TIL about steer boards, thanks!

medieval ships, lots of which have steer boards

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[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

rudders (or “steer boards”)

The "board" part comes from "side of a ship", as in "the board where the steer is attached".

Same meaning as in "going over-board".

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[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you have to say something like "your left or mine?" This removes any ambiguity, and that might matter when one is at sea.

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, port is red and Starboard is green. Usually boats will colour the sheets to match. It helps to identify the lines when someone tells you to ease the port sheet.

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[–] PissinSelfNdriveway@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember being young taking my boaters safety course and having to take this section over three times. Why does left and right stop existing once you are on a floating pos?

[–] joejoe87577@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because left and right can be interpreted as direction from your point of view. Port and starboard are always understood as left and right of the vessel you are currently in.

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

In performance arts, stage left and stage right perform the same function as well. "Stage" directions are always from the perspective of a performer, so that referring to right/left is absolute.

[–] CCF_100@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is the joke here that it would be embarrassing for the captain to forget this?

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I need something like this to remember left and right correctly.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Port and left have four letters.

Mars also has 4 letters, which is useful when you're trying to remember which portal to travel through at the end of the Vault of Glass raid.

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[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Your pointer finger and thumb make an L on your left hand.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Stamets@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago

Nah, but we did live on an island where sailing and fishing is very important. Our boat was trash but we did have a boat.

[–] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Red right returning". You must be leaving port.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But the red on your boat is always port.

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