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Few even mentioned his name, and the new federal indictment he faces was completely ignored, as Republican candidates for president tried in Iowa Sunday to present themselves as Donald Trump alternatives.

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Remember folks, republicans might be able to get rid of trump but they will never get rid of trumpism. Trump merely removed the veil of decency republicans had carefully worn for decades to expose what the party really stands for.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder what William F. Buckley would say about the Trump presidency, what with his doing everything he could to make conservatives sound intellectual...

[–] style99@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Abe Lincoln is spinning in his grave.

[–] silverbax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah, he changed his afterlife party affiliation in the 60s.

[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But in their pitches to challenge Trump for the 2024 nomination, it was as if his indictment Tuesday on federal charges accusing him of working to overturn the 2020 election results had never happened, even from the candidate who has suggested the former president quit the race.

Instead, former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson, who has been a vocal Trump critic, touched only on the related Republican outrage with the Department of Justice, which many conservative activists allege has been politically biased in its investigation of Trump. The former president is also facing federal charges filed in June accusing him of improperly keeping sensitive documents in his Florida home and obstructing efforts to recover them.

[–] MTLion3@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Well yeah. All the people that were screaming his name and how he was cheated, not the other way around, can’t admit they were wrong. That’d be almost like, well, admitting they were wrong! Better to just become the next Trump for the ravenous masses to cling on to

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well played. Not sure why but this is kinda visceral. There is a bit of a vapid, hollow look to these folks or maybe its just me.

[–] Odelay42@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it's important to remember that not all conservatives are dumb idiots who got super into following a charlatan. A lot of them are, don't get me wrong.

But a lot of them are selfish, religious bigots who want to violently control others. They're not valid or dumb, they're cruel.

Don't let them get away with anything by cultivating the idea they're just sheep. There are wolves among them too.

[–] Sanctus@crystals.rest 1 points 1 year ago

As you once did for the vacuous Rom, grant us eyes, grant us eyes. Plant eyes on our brains, to cleanse our beastly idiocy.

  • Micolash, Host of the Nightmare
[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I found the black guy! It's like Where's Waldo

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

And we aren't sure that isn't just some guy working there.

[–] Fuzzy_Dunlop@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump needs to be buried deep enough that he's not a threat as an independent, and so they can win over some "swing" voters, but they don't want to alienate his supporters. This is going to get really awkward.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The only way trump ain’t running is if he’s dead. Or maybe locked up on insurrection charges. Actual. Literal, insurrection charges.

The pubies try and dump him he will go scorched earth, this is a guy that incited an insurrection because he lost last time.

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never let Republicans forget they were duped by a new York millionaire half-wit mafioso underling.

[–] Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

This is always the thing that really gets me. How do these guys identify in any way with a rich, yuppie, NYC real estate sleaze ball? He feels like exactly the kind of guy these people hate, but here we are. A guy who never had to work a day in his life, has had multiple infidelities, I don't even think the dude went to church?

Just had to play the right dog whistle and he tapped into something.

[–] GiddyGap@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, the rest of the bunch aren't much better and in some instances even worse.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only way this strategy makes sense is if these people are not even trying to defeat Trump in the primary. They are only running to elevate their brands for a future run.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Or hoping he somehow gets disqualified, or says the wrong thing and makes his rabid base turn on him

Or maybe they're hoping he'll flee to Russia

Basically, Trump is playing a dangerous game, and there's several ways it could go wrong. None of these guys can beat Trump, but if Trump goes down for any other reason they want to be waiting in the wings as second-best in the eyes of his followers. But in the meantime they don't want to just get completely consumed by him, and they want to appeal to moderates.

If Trump perceives them as a threat, he'll turn on them.

If they try to ride Trump's coattails, he'll use them and then abandon them like everyone else.

Their best bet is to not directly confront Trump but also not fall under his shadow. Supportive, but separate.