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Originally Posted By u/wiseoldmeme At 2025-07-16 10:17:58 AM | Source


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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like how they manage to claim that the opposition is simultaneously pro- and anti-establishment.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

They can’t understand the concept of having nuanced views so they latch onto the last thing they saw. Someone saying to trust the scientists and researchers at the CDC during a pandemic is evil and pro-establishment in all ways but also someone, ten minutes later, pointing out that the government has done, and is doing, many bad things means they’re “anti-American”.

It’s not to crazy once you realize that holding two conflicting ideas in your mind has the prequisite of being able to hold any two ideas in your mind at the same time.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Reading this conversation is like watching very dimwitted children slowly realizing the obvious. It's just painful...

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I promise, there are people who are even more dimwitted and still wont budge from MAGA in even the face of this. And the ones breaking from MAGA aren't realizing the obvious, Epstein is interwoven into q-anon and various rightwing cult beliefs. They're just choosing one mythology over another. Even if the mythology surrounding Epstein is closer to reality than MAGA is, they aren't choosing it for that reason. Its all feels over reals.

You can’t convince someone to do something. You have to make them think it’s their idea.

Once there are cracks in their believe system, it will open up in time. :3

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Haha wtf is this take on what leftists think about government? They unironically say that shit and then out of the other face condemn BLM protests? What a bunch of fucking rubes.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

No MAGA would ever utter the phrase "democrats are right"

That's a plant. And I applaud them

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Watch as these guys get outed as traitors by the stupider majority.

I guarantee all of these threads are already being purged by /r/con mods

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago

I don’t remember the Left saying we should trust the government. I’m certainly not saying that and I identify as a Leftist. Not a Dem. A Leftist.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago
[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

This is the difference between conservative and right-wing.

Conservatives are loyalists who understand on some primal level that you pivot to whatever bullshit maintains support for the people above you. When your football team loses you don't switch sides.

Right-wingers are people who bought some past version of conservatives' bullshit. They're surprised and confused when new contradictions inevitably become too blatant and numerous to excuse.