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[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

the hazards of living in the burbclaves

[–] Kirsche_z@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 7 hours ago

I don't understand how we've become so dumb that we simply can't turn a knob for gas and strike a match for a flame. Or, well atleast dumb enough to accept these kinds of shitty products on the "free market." I understand having convenience in your life, but at the cost of this? AND a higher price all for some "super smoke" and "timer" option.

Is this the technofeudalist dream? If the next big thing in smart tech is to add ai to grills to "get the perfect sear" or whatever, just kill me.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Why does a grill need a screen and buttons? Maybe I'm living in the stone age, but what I call grilling involves putting charcoal to a flame.

[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's a smoker, with a port for a temp probe in the meat.

When you smoke something for 10-12 hours it's nice to get temp readings from wherever. It might also have automatic control for temperature management.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

Why that needs to be connected to the internet is an entirely different matter though.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

It’s a smoker add on. I’d assume so you can adjust the temperature without actually opening it.

[–] SandraBollocks@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

poor baby. who grills out on thanksgiving? also my charcoal grill never does this

[–] treesapx@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

It's very possible, dare I say preferred, to have a traditional Thanksgiving spread getting made in the kitchen while someone grills up some veggies.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 1 points 10 hours ago

My dad's gas grill doesn't do this either. Sometimes the boomer inability to understand technology is a blessing. Now if only he'd stop downloading sketchy slots games and getting viruses...

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 hours ago

Looks like it is a crysis already.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 26 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Grill, Dehumidifier, Air con, Fridge, Dishwasher, Washing Machine, Lightbulbs, Ovens, Doorknob…

None of that should be smarter than "press button, get action".

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Connected HVAC can be pretty damn great depending on your house. It’s changed my energy usage a lot, and I like being able to adjust temps without walking downstairs in the middle of the night. Although having your thermostat lose cloud support ever 10-15 years is pretty shitty.

Connected doors are also great for handing out virtual keys and ensuring that stuff is shut and locked when you’re away.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The Honeywell thermostats support z-wave. So no cloud shenanigans.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I ended up going down the matter, home assistant, HomeKit route so I have some options for local network control.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

That's primarily what I seek out, but my rental has the Honeywell.

Have you found a decent matter thermostat? I'd love to get one when I get a house

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.ca 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I once wondered why the fuck an oven should need WiFi.

Then last week I was stuck in a traffic jam coming home from work, and took 2 hrs to do what should've been a 1 hr drive. (45km distance)

Then I had to make dinner, and I had such little time to have dinner, clean up from dinner, shower, walk the dog, and settle down for bed for work in the morning, I was angrily wishing I could preheat the oven while I was on my way home from work. That's when I realized the reason for a WiFi oven.

Also, being able to say "hey Google lights out" when I'm tired as fuck about to go to bed and the light switch is on the other side of the room opposite direction from the bedroom, is nice too.

Actually, as someone who has little free time when not stuck at work or in traffic, I'm probably more likely than the average person to appreciate things having wifi.

Doorknobs though, I'll draw the line there so we can both at least agree on something together

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 18 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Or we could just have better wages and shorter work weeks.

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 1 points 9 hours ago

Reliable public transportation that doesn't cause or get stuck in traffic jams, also.

A lot harder to buy that at the store unfortunately.

[–] pxlkttn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I have a Christmas tree with built-in LED lights where I can change their colors and make patterns and animations. Every year I get it out I have to do a firmware update on my Christmas tree before I can use it 😂

[–] DeadPixel@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

If they are WiFi controlled that’s actually a good thing, as it sounds like the manufacturer is still supporting it & hopefully updating it to prevent security issues & hacks!

But this is also why I personally try not to buy WiFi enabled gadgets unless it really needs to be remotely accessible.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

Sounds like the start of Cory Doctorow's book Radicalized.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 23 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Iirc, these grills are wifi connected so you can remotely monitor and control temperature. Makes sense if you are bbqing something that is gonna be in there for 12 hours. But then, you kind of lose one of the benefits of bbqing - sitting next to a grill and drinking beer with your friends for 12 hours.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

For this you could have a timer on the thing you set when you start it up and can then walk away from. You don't need the damn net to have a clock in the appliance.

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[–] this@sh.itjust.works 19 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Probably a security update to try and keep it from being part of a botnet maybe? What would work better though is never connecting it to a network or even better, just don't make it smart for no dam reason, lol.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Probably a security update to try and keep it from being part of a botnet maybe?

Then we're back to the same question. At what point a grill have anything that could be part of a botnet :D

[–] DeadPixel@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

Anything with a network connection (unfortunately).

[–] AnitaAmandaHuginskis@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (18 children)

I'm an IT nerd but they could not pay me to buy a grill that requires software updates. What a bunch of nonsense.

[–] keyez@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

As an IT nerd I got one of these and put it on a different subnet and it's not able to reach out to anything external but my phone can hit it from a different subnet. Thing works great.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 15 points 23 hours ago

Pay me? Fuck yes, I'll rip that crap out and replace it with a couple of relays or maybe get fancy and arduino -> home assistant.

I'm betting that someone pay a LOT extra to get that garbage though.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Sending a temp updates to your phone so you don't have to be standing near it the whole time is a nice feature.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Okay, I'm not a huge griller, but wouldn't it be better just to build in a thermostat? Let it maintain its own temperature?

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 15 hours ago

Sometimes you need cook on different temperatures at different periods. Sometimes you want to set it to cool down or heat up and instead of waiting near it, you could just set the target and let your phone ding when it's time.

Commercial grills do exactly that. There's just a thermostat built into the gas valve which uses a sensing bulb to modulate the gas flow based on actual temp and set temp. They don't even need electricity let alone wifi.

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[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 5 points 19 hours ago

I'm an IT guy, if my printer made a noise I don't recognise I'd shoot it.

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 18 points 21 hours ago

I have a friend who's really big in to smoking meats for hours and hours and days at a time. He loves this kind of thing because he can monitor the smoker without physically being in front of it.

I think he's crazy af for involving the damned internet in it but I guess it is what it is when you're "cooking" something for 9 hours.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago

But supposed they invented a whole new kind of meat and your grill wasn't ready to deal with it? How would you feel then? Pretty darn silly, that's how!

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The nosy kind. Seriously though, I'll stick with my old obsolete brinkmann

[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago (5 children)
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