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Elon Musk said he would form a new political party called the “America Party.”

Tesla shares fell Monday after Musk’s announcement.

Tesla shareholders have wanted Musk to stay away from politics, especially after his stint at the so-called Department of Government Efficiency, which many have said damaged the automaker’s brand.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 129 points 5 days ago (5 children)

wild that we used to think this fucking clown was cool

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 95 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And smart.

But it turns out he basically steals the ideas of better people and takes all the credit. Truly a modern day Thomas Edison. But even worse.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Worse, for many reasons, but also: stealing Tesla's actual name this time

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No. Yet again, you are giving him too much credit. He did not start Tesla nor did he have ANY hand in any of the successful designs.

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 48 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] uuldika@lemmy.ml 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'll admit to it.

I used to think Tesla was based, since it paved the way for mass-market EVs to happen. I still think SpaceX is based because of the booster reuse and droneship recovery of Falcon 9, and the massive potential for Starship to make space massively cheaper, and Starlink for bringing Internet to rural areas/war zones like Ukraine (despite clouding the skies.)

On a personal level I found him disgusting, and as a billionaire I think he's the sickness at the core of our economy and society. The projects of his companies were genuinely useful, though.

So yeah, in 2015 he would have been closer to the bottom of my list of most evil billionaires, whereas now he's way at the top.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Yep same. For the longest time, honestly too long, he was cool and smart in my eyes. I have always loved space travel and craved a high tech, sustainable future. Not anymore. He killed much of that for me.

[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 days ago

Exactly, did anyone here think non-fictional billionaires could ever be cool? After developing critical thinking skills that is.

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I always hated him. Peak hate was when he sent a car in space, supported Trump and did the Nazi salutes.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 9 points 5 days ago

My claim to fame is that I disliked the guy from the very first time I saw him.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

the problem was that the things he said he was good at are highly specialized and there was not much media attention when actual experts said he had zero idea what he was doing. it took him pretending to know how to do stuff most people can instantly recognize when done poorly, like video games or speaking in public

[–] Cenotaph@mander.xyz 57 points 5 days ago

Still up 16% since this time last year. More crash please.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 60 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

CEO loses investors $68 billion after $56 billion pay rise

I wish I could survive my company losing money

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

i truly do not understand how shareholders think, why the fuck would you keep tesla stocks at this point? sell them and invest in that chinese electric moped company for fuck's sake, infinitely more reliable

[–] Azhad@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's very simple: his votes, plus his family votes and the fact that shares held in index and funds vote always like the boards direct and they have the vast majority and every "voting" is just a farce.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Funny how the "America Party" wasn't created by an American.

Hitler wasn't German, Stalin wasn't Russian.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 39 points 5 days ago (11 children)

They should be seriously considering firing this fuck, by now. Everything he's done for the last couple of years has cost his investors money.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago

I’m happy to see the company go up in flames. Anyone still holding positions in TSLA deserves whatever happens.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Hahahaha - have you seen “the board”? It’s several bought-and-paid-for dipshits and members of his family. He’ll make a good decision before they oust him.

Not happening. Never (unless it’s part of a scam, then yeah sure why not. Gotta fleece the stooges).

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Then it sounds like it would be a slam-dunk to prove in court, that the board is no longer honoring its fiduciary duties to its investors.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

lol you think any court in this farce of a country holds the rich to account?!

As a certain scorpoin would say, "lol, lmao"

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Which "rich" are you talking about? The one rich guy in charge...or the many rich people that are watching their investment bottom out, because of him?

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 33 points 5 days ago

Still massively overvalued.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can we skip to the good part where is 100% bankrupt and no other billionaire bails him out and he ends up being arrested by a rookie cop doing his first drug arrest as Elon nearly ODs on illegal street ketamine and literally no one in the legal system cares when he is given a life sentence?

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'd settle for "dies a 90 hour non-instrument rated private pilot flying the Beech Debonair he just bought VFR into IMC by slamming into a hillside trying to fly under a 300 foot ceiling."

But he wouldn't pass a 3rd class medical certificate, would he?

I have a message. Elon Musk’s plane was shot down over the Sea of Japan. It spun in. There were no survivors.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Please announce creating more parties.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

7D chess, my mind can't follow.

[–] Trihilis@ani.social 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I thought we were at 256D chess now.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Why you'd pick such a random number?"- genius coder Musk

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

"I know for a fact that no coder would use such a number" - probably Elon Musk

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It coincides with a bunch of other stuff, like hints at Tesla regulation, tariffs, and regular wild swings just from being Tesla.

Tesla is up 16% over 1 year, 185.44% over 5 years, beating the S&P 500. Not that I would ever hold Tesla, but still, it's not like Musk's wealth has evaporated.

CNBC is basically the Fox News of finance world. Big, sensationalist and basically catering to day trader hype (not the longer term buy-and-hold crowd. You know, what the stock market is supposed to be). So maybe there's some cause and affect here, but I don't trust them on headlines like this.

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📉⬇️ STONKS

Love to see it

The ~~America~~ Elon Musk Oligarchy Party.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 6 points 4 days ago

Yep! Made me smile

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago
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[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago

it was damaged before doge was created.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

will elon maco like the taco?

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If I were in the market for an EV, I have better options than a Tesla including some that are the equivalent of sub 10,000 USD. I just don’t know how well EVs can handle +50C temperatures.

I think Mattel makes better electric vehicles than Tesla.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Literal and figurative car crashes! Woo!

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