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doi: 10.1037//0021-843x.105.3.440

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[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 17 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Most of what I learned about LGBTQ came from homophobes. The ones who would not shut up about it.

For example when I didn't know that rainbows were associated with the community. I had friend school over one time. He saw a blanket with a rainbow stripe pattern. He basically had a gay panic meltdown. He was so certain we were a family of closeted gays.

So anyways later on he got a degree from a bible college or something. And he joined an evangelical church. One where they travel around to city streets around preaching from megaphones. Kind of like that Westboro Baptist thing.

In our early 20s he sexually assault me. I found out later from another guy we went to school with that he also forced himself on that guy too.

He's not the only person I've known like this but certainly the most crazy one.

If there's any true to the saying that gays rub their identity in everyone's face. Then it's the homophobe ones. It's got to be a massive projection. It's like they're trying to tell the world but it manifests as some kind of self-hate in denial or something.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 7 points 2 hours ago

Is this why Republican senators keep getting caught kissin' with other men in public restrooms?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Uuh that's a very difficult thing.

It's like wearing agressive perfume full of hormomes. It might cause somebody to get an erection but it's still hella uncomfortable and annoying. Not really consensual and i see why it pisses people off.

[–] Applejuicy@feddit.nl 4 points 50 minutes ago (2 children)

TIL people get erections from perfume.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 33 minutes ago

People will spend a lot of money if a marketer lies to them enough. It should be noted that scientists don’t recognize any human-arousal pheromones. Only shady websites that wanna sell you overpriced perfume.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

Yeah, that's really weird. I've never heard of this. But I guess if you just make an association in you brain, then it can be a turn on.

[–] Zgierwoj@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago

Aight thats really fair

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 2 hours ago

Attraction to women doesn't make people not misogynist.

[–] underscores@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I really don't like the idea of citing this study. It's always this same one from the 90s, and if it were acurate I expect the results would have been reproduced more. It's also not clear that the results indicate what the paper says. There's other reasons than sexual arousal that could explain the results. It could be they're imagining the scenario and are axious or disgusted by it. There's this paper that indicates homophobia is usually caused by fear or hate.

I don't like the idea of putting the blame for homophobia on closeted queer people. It's seems extremely likely to me that most homophobic people are straight, since most people are straight. Also we should respect other people's own identification instead of trying to force labels on people, even if they're bigots.

[–] Semester3383@lemmy.world 37 points 5 hours ago

IIRC, this hasn't been debunked per se, but it was a very small, very limited study, and doesn't really do a great job of explaining homophobia in a broader population. (I mean, you're talking about 64 people in total; depending on your inclusion criteria, that could be a meaningless sample size.) Penile plethysmography is a proxy for sexual arousal; it's useful in some instances--like predicting whether or not someone will commit more sexual offenses in the future--but isn't even that great in those instances. If I remember correctly, there's strong evidence that disgust is a trait strongly associated with conservatism, and homophobia is a an extreme disgust reaction.

FWIW, I was casually--but quite virulently--homophobic when I was younger. I'd been raised in a very conservative, evangelical religious group, and I believed all the bullshit that I'd heard about gay people. That changed once I lost religion, and actually met people that were gay. That, of course, is only anecdotal evidence, and does assume that I'm neither gay nor bisexual (and I don't believe that I am), but it fits with what I've seen from conservative thought.

[–] onwardknave@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

This is going to get the fundamentalists to hate science even more. Heh.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 65 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

So interesting thing here: both groups were aroused at heterosexual and lesbian stimuli.

The homophobic ones responded to the homosexual stimuli.

The guys were bi. Sort of explains why they argue "everyone chooses to be gay or straight." Because they have decided they have to.

This also explains the more-frequent-than-i-enjoy conversation about how "no, there really isn't a celebrity I'd go gay for."

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 43 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like bisexuality is way more common than what we see. And if anything, I feel like the reason why so many women are more likely bi or willing to experiment vs men is literally just the bullshit stigma against being seen as gay.

And this may just be my experience, but being bisexual isn't as easy as just choosing one or the other. The problem is that if you repress that much of your sexuality it only grows more... Intense. And sometimes more depraved, which is never a good thing. And I feel like that's why a lot of those men end up getting caught doing "gay" things but it's never just normal stuff. It's always super crazy shit they get caught doing because it's been repressed for so long that they make awful impulse decisions on feelings they've been ignoring for years. Like holding in your anger for 30 years and then going absolutely fucking mental when your coworker takes your parking spot.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think a lot of these men are bisexual but heteroromantic, thus why suppressing their sexual desires are easier.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago

Just go on Grindr and you’ll be proven right. I’m in a tiny blue collar town. One that does burnouts on the rainbow crosswalk. 3/4 of everyone on Grindr are “DL bicurious guy” or “straight but like dicks”.

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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 104 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

It's always important in science to do the experiment or study, even if you're pretty sure you already know the answer.

Sometimes, the result will be surprisingly counter-intuitive. And other times, like in this study, it confirms what seems blatantly obvious.

What could it possibly mean when a man who identifies as heterosexual feels threatened by the mere existence of homosexual men? What could it mean???

[–] catty@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

And sometimes, just sometimes, studies are framed to find what the experimenter wants them to find.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 23 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

And then they’re like "huh… that’s weird“ and discover time travel by accident.

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[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 76 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Homophobes: resist those evil urges, don't give it to the gay sex, you can do it just say no...

The rest of us: uh, who's gonna tell them

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Homophobes: "We can't legalize gay marriage! The birth rate would collapse! If men could marry men, then what reasonable man would ever choose to marry a disgusting, weak, woman over a strong, virile, muscular, sweaty, musky, oily, maaaannnnnn..."

The rest of us: Dude. Bro. Dude.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 34 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

If you're scared enough, even wiping your ass is gay.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

Has this man never eaten a sandwich? Pizza? French Fries? Tacos? What is this nonsense?

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Eating food with your hands is unsanitary?

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 36 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

That's outright disgusting.

If you need to regularly scratch your anus, go see a doctor.

Also, even if you do need to scratch your anus, why wouldn't you be able to eat with your hands? SURELY you sanitize them properly RIGHT? RIGHT?!

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

People who think like this don't wash their hands after going to the toilet, so of course it's disgusting for them.

[–] angelmountain@feddit.nl 15 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Eat with the right, touch anus with the left and always wash hands before you eat. Developed cultures have done this for ages. And they have clean bumholes because they wash instead of only smearing with toilet paper. That shit is disgusting.

Washing can also help against the itchiness. As well as non-synthetic underwear. If those don't help, do indeed see a doctor.

[–] Semester3383@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If you need to regularly scratch your anus, you probably have parasites. That's one of the prime ways for some species of parasites (roundworms, I think?, probably tapeworms too?) to spread.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago

If you have a tenia, you are never alone.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago

"You fear and reject what you are"

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe they were just thinking of fishing together

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