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[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago

Any country where healthcare and higher education are considered human rights and not commodities will work for me.

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

France because I’m A2 in French, Spain if I could pick anywhere.

[–] jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Brit here. I'd be happy to accept Dem voters. Fart voters can stay at home and eat their own dogshit. Non-voters too; they knew exactly who FartV1 was and I am genuinely surprised Harris couldn't get in simply on "I'm not Fart". They really thought she'd be worse?

And for those who get over here by lying about their vote; they incriminate themselves, and will be deported the moment we discover the truth.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

They really thought she'd be worse?

For the love of God, please stop spreading this mode of thinking. Elections are won by enthusiasm, not an intellectual weighing of the pros and cons of each. This is the model Democrats have used for decades that got us here. Being the lesser evil is not a solid campaign strategy. The greater evil will always get more attention, and therefore enthusiasm.

I don't think this is an exclusively American thing. Did Brits really think brexit was a good idea?

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 22 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I went to Norway. Big recommend. That said, I refuse to call myself an expat or use the term expatriate. I am an immigrant. I think it is weird that white westerners get a special word and everybody else are filthy immigrants.

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 9 hours ago

To me expat always referred to people that only stay temporarily, mostly sent abroad by the company they work at. As opposed to a migrant that is meaning to stay permanently (and eventually gains citizenship).

TIL the definition differs regionally (see wiki) and mostly not as I thought it was.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

It's semantics but the difference between expat and immigrants is an expat intends to return to their home country some day, where an immigrant does not.

it's racism

if a westerner works with plans to return they are called expat, if it's a non western, they are called migrants labour or foreign workers and are treated like shit.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Yes, but connotatively it is just a marker of privilege. Especially here, since what we’re talking about is immigration, not temporary work.

[–] Xande@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 9 hours ago

Tbf most migrants are either damn smart, hard workers or damn smart hard workers.

So, for a good future we should welcome them!

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 25 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I'm German and as far as I'm concerned the people who want to flee the current US administration are exactly the type of people you want to welcome with open arms.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

As a trans woman I might need somewhere to go and I desperately hope that when that day comes someone like you is in charge if deciding if I get to stay.

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[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I'm very concerned that people who choose to go to France will just find themselves in the exact same situation along with the rest of us not too long from now. I'd advise looking for a country with a lower fascism approval rating...

We do have lots of cheese, though, if it's any consolation.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Someplace in the Anglosphere. I don't think I have it in me to learn a new language just to get by in day-to-day life. New Zealand, maybe.

Unfortunately, my immensely low income and numerous medical issues means that I'm not much of a candidate for emigration.

Also, ideally, a region without a lot of insects.

In any case, though, I'm probably going to die here, stubbornly. If these fascist fucks want me dead bad enough to see it through, I'm at least going to inconvenience them with getting rid of my body.

[–] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

Non-American here. All Americans, except MAGA muricans, are welcome.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

GingTFO isn't actually a huge problem for Americans. I've looked into it and the only reason I'm still here is that my wife refuses to leave and I love her too much to leave her. Dozens of countries will give Americans residency, although citizenship is usually a lot more difficult and/or takes years. There is usually a minimum income requirement, but you don't have to be rich. I've seen it in the $1200-$2k/mo range in multiple places. Of course this has to be income you can still make while you're in the new country, not a US job you're going to give up. Makes it pretty sweet for "digital nomads" tho who can work remotely.

A few countries highly rated by expats are Costa Rica, Panama, Uruguay (esp good environment for LGBTQ+), and Thailand. Vietnam doesn't even have a visa limit - technically it's 3 or 5 years but all you have to do to reset it is go away for like 30 days. There are lots of others. If you want to get started google "Americans moving abroad", there are tons of helpful videos and articles.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 11 hours ago

Somewhere it only snows a handful of times a year. I'm not about the cold life.

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