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How to teach animals they can eat that shape, until they encounter a plastic one

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 96 points 2 days ago (4 children)

All food packaging could be glass, paper, metal and cloth. It was just that until plastic was invented. We could go back to that and the world and people would be a bit healthier for it. We won't, though, not until we're forced to by something catastrophic.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Total CO2 will go up if we tried that. If we were smarter about reuse, like say, washing processing and resealing glass containers instead of crushing and remelting them (at best) we might be better. But plastics are much lighter, space efficient and durable. Which makes them less carbon intensive in many cases.

Really we need less one time use or single serving containers of any material. Which isn’t likely unless society collapses and we have to live in local communes to survive.

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago

I want this so badly. Ban single use plastics outside of medical

Sure, but we also need to re-define what we call/think of as plastic. When we think of plastic we think of fossil fuel based plastics right? We don't think of biodegradable, compostable, renewable plastics. Plastics made from corn starch and sugarcane exist with processes that can greatly reduce the carbon impact, while also reducing risks of micro plastics being in our water supply, blood, and well everything. Plastics can also be made from algea from what I've heard. So the idea that we need to shift what we are using I believe is 100% true, but that also means we need to do some research into what would be the least impactful, highest yield, best value (or we will never get support in this hellscape) to find replacements.

Glass can be reused near indefinite, but is heavy and uses a decent amount of energy input to remold it. That doesn't mean we shouldnt use it, it means we should, but for specific purposes. We need to get our governments and businesses to invest in research.... Somehow.

[–] Lauchmelder@feddit.org 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Is plastic in our brains not catastrophic enough?

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

No, It just happened we haven't done studies on it yet so it may be good for us. Like how cigarettes were good for us in the 40s

No, your brain does not matter to the wealthy.

[–] dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The plastic in our brains made us think that indeed, it isn't, or that there isn't any plastic in our brains.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 5 points 2 days ago

I, for one, welcome the microplasic particles in my brain.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How long until some TikTok dipshit makes a short about eating them with hot sauce or something?

I dunno. Seems like honoring the culture.

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 22 points 2 days ago

Floridaman has such an interesting story arc and I'm all for it

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Just checked, these were invented in 2016 and didn’t take off.

I haven’t seen plastic rings in years, are they banned or are some companies just not using them?

Edit I’m in the UK btw.

[–] zout@fedia.io 19 points 2 days ago

I haven't seen them a long time either, but these days the six packs are completely wrapped in plastic. Another win for the packaging industry I guess.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

I think the old plastic rings have been banned in some states. For cans I’ve mostly seen beer cans now coming in a thicker but more widely recyclable ring. Sometimes they come in paperboard boxes like the larger packs do and suspect that’s where the industry is moving. I’ve still seen something like the old rings come with soda in plastic bottles. Really not sure why they haven’t changed.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Wait... I see these all the time... is it maybe just a Canada thing?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Helllloooo rats in warehouses.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Exactly. This is why no food products are stored in warehouses, except in metal containers that rats can't access.

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How did it take humanity this long to think of this‽

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Money. Plastic is probably still cheaper.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And more resilient to weather/time/etc. for transporting in sub-optimal conditions.

There's also the possibility that since this is edible and exposed, putting this in a warehouse would invite a horde of rodents and insects.

It's a good idea, but the reason we haven't done this before is because it creates inconvenient problems for distribution centers and the logistics of transportation and storage. Which in the short and long run, costs more money to either prevent the negative outcomes, or deal with them later.

It is better for the environment, but I'd rather go after billionaires and huge corporations polluting the environment without repercussions first.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's not like there isn't a middleground. I didn't see those awful sixpack rings in years, in Germany where I live those sixpacks are packed in cardboard (goes around the sixpack once for stability). Works perfectly fine, and given it's just paper with a little bit of printer colours (which, technically, could also be done environmentally friendly) there are little to no reasons not to do it this way except for greed. …therefore it isn't surprising plastic sixpack rings are specifically common in the US, lol.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's a decent middleground. It still doesn't solve the more extreme/inclement weather issue if the cardboard gets wet, say when thrown into an ice chest, or accidentally dropped off a fishing boat; but it's good enough for most applications.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

Just… take them out of it first? Don't really see the problems here. A little bit of rain during shipping is no problem for the material.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah ive never seen a six pack with plastic rings. Its always wrapped in a thin cardboard box here.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This has been around since 2016, though only available for sale since 2018. It uses waste byproducts of the brewing process to create a biodegradable/compostable cardboard-like substance. It can be consumed by some animals like manatees/turtles/fish but it’s not really intended to be fed to them, just more that it’s safe if it ends up in the environment.

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

They stink like over-ripe mushrooms in my experience. They also easily break and you have to reinforce them with plastic packing tape. It's a nice idea, but a regular paper box is the better option.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 days ago

The most important thing about it is it's perfectly biodegradable in nature. You can throw them on your compost.

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Let's be real here. This is Florida man we're talking about, these things are not going to, and were never intended to, be fed to anyone or anything other than Florida man himself.

[–] lihmalahmalehma@suppo.fi 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Floridaman feeds edibles to animals

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

New And Reformed Floridaman, or Old Floridaman? Because honestly I can parse that as a good deed or a bad one depending on how you want to frame it

[–] lihmalahmalehma@suppo.fi 7 points 2 days ago

Floridaman is an agent of chaos whose intentions cannot be understood by mortals.