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Thanks to the "you need to buy a new PC for running W11" bullshit, scammers are selling ewaste at full price to inexperienced people (feddit.it)

submitted 2 days ago by Moonrise2473@feddit.it to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world

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And from the glowing reviews it's clear that

W11 doesn't actually need a new PC to run and the limitations are completely artificial
For many people, a ten years old PC is fast enough (or even faster than a brand new Intel N100 PC that is officially W11 compatible). They won't even notice that's something from 2015, as long it has a shiny new case, enough RAM and SSD
Amazon doesn't care that the PC comes with pirated software, or that someone is scamming their customers, as long they get their 15% cut from marketplace sales (the cost of a genuine license of W11 pro and office exceeds the price of those ewaste specials)

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 16 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I thought all Lemmy users were running Linux?

[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

and also Thinkpads?

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

and thigh highs?

[–] r_deckard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Fursuits

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

soon™️

[–] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

OpenBSD too

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 16 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Folks, the sooner you dip your toe into Linux the better. Don't let these mega corps tell you how to use your own stuff. Buck the trends and break free.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I've been thinking about it, but I probably wouldn't be able to run my driving sim gear on it. I think I might get a cheap second-hand laptop to play around with it, though.

[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

That's the way I fully got into it - started off on an old laptop and ~~manifested~~ continued from there.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Idk about running sims, but I switched over a yearish ago. It was a release of anxiety I didn't even know I was carrying around with me. Just a break from the relentless capitalization and enshittification that windows jams down your throat at every given moment. It's so nice having a system that doesn't spy on me, does what I want when I want it, and never locks me out for any reason. I don't have to reset the privacy settings after every update. It works faster too. 10/10 recommend.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those are newer than the CPU I'm typing this on, they're not waste

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

They dont officially support windows 11 and the avg users are not going to know any better. It's a grey area scam. They're not worth $400 at all.

But 1000% not waste to a tech person. My oldest machines right now we're decommissioned workstations with 8th gen i5s that I used for seedbox, DNS/pihole, proxmox, etc. they won't get windows installed and I'll drive them til they literally die. Backed up with veaam to a second truenas, easily swapped out and back up and running with any failure. I love older tech because it's cheap and as long as you know what you're doing, it works well.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Core i7-6700 with 32 gb ram isn't worth $400? Daymn, I'm due to upgrade then

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Lookup prices of ddr4, dirt cheap.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those aren't eWaste. Those are Mint machines.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 8 points 15 hours ago

Not worth hundreds though

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 day ago (16 children)

I keep repeating this, my i5 750 (2009 pc), oc at 3.6ghz can do any fucking thing most people do with their computer. With a 1060 gpu, It plays like 90% of the games , I've made pro audio and video projects on it, even a small vr game.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 8 hours ago

I had a very similar PC. I think maybe slightly better. I ended up upgrading because the CPU was becoming more and more of a bottleneck. The roar was Elden Ring. The fps wouldn't go past about 20. Also some gaves are now being compiled against x64 v3 instructions (like Hell Divers 2 and Death Stranding) which there's literally no way of running on an old CPU since it doesn't have the instructions for it.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Generally agree but also consider power usage. Of course it also depends how often its powered on or not. If its used a lot then buying newer hardware may well be cheaper just in the energy saved, though if its off most of the time then its less of a concern.

[–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

From a personal finance perspective, you need to consider the price of the new machine and the difference in the energy bill for the average time you would still be using your current machine until it doesn't work anymore.

From a sustainability perspective, you also need to consider the manufacturing impacts of the new machine in all the production chain and the energy used in that process (this is a concept called emergy). Maybe also the disposal process of the current one, if that's the case.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Energy to produce should already be represented in the price. Though pollution probably won't be.

[–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago

It should, but when production is outsourced to different countries, with different regulations and with different currencies things get messy. Even worse when there's corruption involved along the chain.

[–] firipu@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (5 children)

Yeah no, calling cap on that.

It'll run most indies and triple A game from 6-7y ago.

It'll be a real bottle neck for recent games. And especially for the only game that truly matters, rimworld.

I am running an n150 on a secondary mini pc. On paper it's twice as fast as your cpu. It drives me crazy how slow it can be at times when running multiple tabs or apps at the same time. You're delusional if you think your cpu is still up to snuff in 2025

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago

if it's anything like the Pentium g4560 it can absolutely play games, just not necessarily at good framerates nor AVX so star citizen is completely unrunnable. also Linux compile times suck

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I think people tend to forget that the vast majority of people don't even play games on their computer. Like when I mention this computer, I always get "Nah, this wont play Elden Ring at 4k 120 fps, just throw it to the garbage". But my parents, sisters, most of my friends dont give a damn about gaming. And this computer is definitely fast enough for all my personal gaming needs.

Another thing, is that gaming streaming services are now super efficient. I could literally play Doom the Dark Age at 1080p on Xbox Game pass with this PC, and I sometimes subscribe to PS+ to play Playstation exclusives.

[–] firipu@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I still doubt it would be a pleasant experience. I only do office type work on the n150 device. It's still laggy AF compared to any modern mid-range cpu. (eg my i5 (?) 8600 at home, which is also already of respectable age, is a lot smoother for non-gaming use.)

But I guess your point (partially) stands, Johnny granddad won't notice when he checks the news and weather in the morning.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

I suspect it's all the OS bullshit that makes you experience laggy. Obviously having an SSD and 8gb ram is essential. I made a super light install of Win 10 on my i5 750, years ago, and any office works is still 100% smooth on it. Even editing and mixing audio is not much different than on my M1 Max, I still open some old projects from time to time. I teach computer science in an audio engineering program, and I'm convinced that in the field of audio, we won the battle of computing power a very long time ago. On the other hand, for video processing, game engines, etc. it's another story. But in the field of sound, power gains are marginal these days.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago

It should be able to run a pretty good sized factory in Factorio. Easily fast enough to compile CDDA.

Oh no, can't play what ever some AAA studio shat out last week, how ever will I cope...

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, same. That was my first major PC build and it hit its threshold. I used the hell out of it for nearly 6 years, but no way it's playing new games with a 1060.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

Has mentioned, I just finished It takes 2 with my nephew. Might subscribe to Gamepass to try Doom The Dark Age. Not everyone needs 4k or competition performance.

[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

Fr. I have an OCd 2500k and it was a bottleneck many years ago. Pre Sandy CPUs.... Not a chance it's not a bottleneck.

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[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 1 day ago (8 children)

... a ten years old PC is...

... that's something from 2015, ...

Oh my! 2015 was 10 years ago?

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[–] AstaKask@lemmy.cafe 42 points 1 day ago

It's Amazon. Of course it's a scam. I always tell elderly people it's a criminal enterprise scamming old people when they ask about it.

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Switch to Linux and keep using your current computer. Tell Microsoft to pound sand.

[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dont think the people buying these even know what linux is.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This is so wrong

Windows 11 requires 8th gen Intel or newer. You can bypass it but you lose official support and more importantly things will break down the line.
Those listing are not what I would call "full price"
You can buy a old 8th gen Intel system off of eBay for less than 100€

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