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And of course they had to shoehorn some AI bullshit in it

(why I installed this driver: because i can remap the two extra buttons as copy/paste)

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[–] orionsbelt@midwest.social 206 points 1 week ago (5 children)

maybe this will help, if you wanted to ditch the logi driver:

https://github.com/pwr-Solaar/Solaar

Solaar is a Linux manager for many Logitech keyboards, mice, and other devices that connect wirelessly to a Unifying, Bolt, Lightspeed or Nano receiver as well as many Logitech devices that connect via a USB cable or Bluetooth. Solaar is not a device driver and responds only to special messages from devices that are otherwise ignored by the Linux input system.

[–] OhShitSon@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I hope one day theres something similar to this, but for 8bitdo.

I have an 8bitdo keyboard, and in order to map my buttons, I need to boot up a windows 10 hard drive, do my one time edits, save them to the keyboard, and THEN I can turn off the pc, swap back to my ZorinOS hard drive, and THEN I can go about as normal.

And if for some reason somethings wrong, or didn't take, I'd have to repeat the whole process all over again.

All because the keyboard manager doesn't work on linux. But it's not logitech.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Sell the 8bitdo keyboard and buy one instead that is capable of running with QMK or ZMK firmware and is configurable by either VIA or VIAL.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 98 points 1 week ago (1 children)

wtf AI in your mouse driver?

Oh yeah, totally not logging your every mouse movement, no sir, not at all!

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It’s training itself to pass those mouse based “I’m human” checks that some sites use.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 week ago

That’s hilarious. But might actually not be a joke.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 76 points 1 week ago

The driver for your mouse occupies a few kilobytes. The shitty app and AI garbage bloatware occupies the rest.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Use the offline installer, which is for offline and airgapped machines. It turns off the AI prompt builder as well as all the telemetry shite:

https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/11570501236119-Logitech-Options-offline-installer

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 week ago (3 children)

AI prompt builder? What? It's a fucking mouse??????

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It is repulsive to me in its entirety but apparently the vibe coders dig it.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

But it has AI? If your mouse doesn't have AI, you're living in the past

Edit: ~~post~~ past

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[–] linrilang@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago

We detected you moved your mouse. Downloading 1GB of AI telemetry and 3GB of user experience optimizations…

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Fuck electron, fuck "web first" apps, fuck the "all application in the future will be websites" mentality.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The mouse driver used with the Commodore 64's GEOS operating system uses 3 blocks on disk, less than a kilobyte.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most of the reason why the Logitech driver is so gargantuan is a separate Chromium browser instance, because someone thought that apps should be all websites first, which lead to most GUI libraries being developed for javascript and most devs being taught to be web developers.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

VSCode is also electron with a 100mb download size and 400mb install size. I think it has 1000x more functionality than some shit Logitech UI where you change LED colors. This sounds more like incompetence on the Logitech team than a problem with electron itself.

It's not like traditional methods of packing apps are without problems. If I want to install the qbittorrent flatpak on Ubuntu, it pulls in >1gb of KDE depenencies, so I really don't see how that's better than these dreaded electron apps.

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[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But did it support RGB?

Didn't think so, checkmate!

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I have several Logitech peripherals. Why in the fuck does it need AI?!?!

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

I mean, this was their idea last year...

Forever "Subscription Mouse"

I feel like "AI Mouse" is right up their alley.

[–] don@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

Because CEOs.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Actual driver code: about 500KB. If that.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

500KB used to be the entire OS, application, drivers, and user data. Oh well.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We live in the age of bloated software.

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

The Internet is so bloated because every page is bursting with telemetry and spa framework bullshit that over engineers a fucking music recital site.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's not the driver but some bundled configuration & update bloatware.

Back in my days, you had to overwrite some .exe with a "0" to disable Nvidia from spying on you. The overwrite, because they would just download it again if you deleted the .exe.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

I remember installing a fresh PC with win98. During installation, I disabled some windows bloatware (Imagine! You actually could do this!), and ended up with an unresponsive, non-windows app blocking the system. I killed that app and removed it from the system. Keep in mind that at this point, no network connection was set up, nor did I install any driver or program yet, this was straight from the windows install medium.

After reboot, the app was back, and again blocking the system.

Wiping the harddisk and starting installation over did not help either.

Turned out this was some bloatware installed by the BIOS whenever it detected at boot that there was a) a Windows installation that was b) "missing" their "register your PC with us" app. This needed some Windows bloatware to work, and thus failed on this machine.

This was the only time I angrily screamed at a hotline worker.

[–] tordenflesk@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

The software, afaik there is no actual driver involved.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

+1 for using space sniffer. It's the best of such apps I've found. Unfortunately doesn't seem to get updated any more.

[–] supamanc@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Windirstat or kdirstat for the win

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 21 points 1 week ago (6 children)

what the fuck?? why would a mouse need ai? ancient computer user here who is very confused lol

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[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Please don't be Logitech, please don't be Logitech...

Damnit.

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i wonder if a open source driver alternative exists.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Piper is less than 2MB, and allows reconfiguring Logitech mouse buttons. It's available in Debian and Ubuntu package managers.

Screenshot:

I had to use Piper to get exotic features like having mouse 6, 7, 8 buttons function as mouse 6, 7, 8, rather than the default of alt-tab and ctrl-v.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

This is not a driver. The README itself says:

Piper is merely a graphical frontend to the ratbagd DBus daemon

ratbagd itself, BTW, is also not a driver.

The unofficial open source license is called logiops, and according to the Debian site most of its builds are also under 2MB (and the two builds that aren't are only slightly bigger)

There is also RatSlap, which I can't find information on how big it is (and I'm not going to bother installing it just to find out)

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[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 16 points 1 week ago

The driver consumes a few KB. The bullshit software that you don't need to install is what's consuming the GB.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 13 points 1 week ago

Space Sniffer gang represent!

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I like SpaceSniffer, it is almost 10 years old program and I still use it

[–] Damage@feddit.it 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)
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[–] aesopjah@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

you could use autohotkey and remap mouse3/4 (or whatever they are) to C-c and C-v

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 12 points 1 week ago

My first mouse driver was smaller than the picture you attached to this post

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