None of the above because I’m no longer a teenage edgelord
this post was submitted on 01 Jul 2025
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Haha nice. Careful those Luigi fanboys and girls are die hard.
Guevara easily. Kaczynski recognized many issues with the world but blamed it on technological progress rather than the system driving that technological progress and then used it as an excuse to murder people. He wasn't even very good at the murdering and mostly killed people he did not intend to. Luigi is ideologically confused but iconic for his (alleged) propaganda of the deed. I like him but he isn't an influence on me. Guevara helped lead a successful revolution that vastly improved the lives of the vast majority of cubans forever. He has contributed to an incalculable good for hundreds of thousands of people. He then became a leftist icon and integral part of so many guerilla movements that were so threatening that the US contracted help from a former nazi to find and kill him. They then attempted to hide is corpse in an unmarked grave in the jungle. It's not a hard choice. Thats not even mentioning his valuable humanitarian work outside of Cuba and his work within the Cuban government as treasurer.
Despite hearing Che Guevera's name sometimes, I've never known anything about them. These seem really cool, it's worthy for a good history podcast about his acts.
Don't get too wrapped up in the mythology. He was a human being, and he was complicated. There are a lot of legitimate criticisms of che guevera. Probably most notable are his racism, homophobia, and cruelty towards his perceived enemies
Oof, although it doesn't seem too surprising.
What do you think it would take to be a revolutionary in the US today and is anybody on their way there?
Honestly I am not focused on revolution within the US at the moment. Before that is possible we will need revolutions in the imperial periphery that make our empire weak enough to tackle. I have not the slightest clue what it would take to be a revolutionary in the sense that Che was within the US and I don't think its up to individuals to figure that out. Leaving it to the individual is begging for adventurism. Hell, Che would say America is not ready for an urban Guerrila movement yet anyway. He'd say too many people still trust the electoral system and he'd be damn right. America does not yet have a revolutionary vanguard party so I wouldn't say anyone is close to being revolutionaries yet. PSL shows promise but they are limited by essentially just being a protest org right now. They also do some education and work with some labor unions but it isn't all there imo.
Yeah most of the US is totally bought into the two party system. The government would have to really fuck everybody in order for people to band together to revolt.
A revolutionary, a terrorist and an innocent man walk into a bar… stop me if you’ve heard this one before.
Not criticizing, but do you actually believe Luigi is innocent? Meaning he didn’t kill somebody or something else?
Innocent until proven guilty.
Even if he is actually the perp. He performed a surgical strike with zero collateral damage. Just one evil man dead. That's it. Everyone else is unharmed.
Every revolutionary or pro-climate bomber has had killed many innocents along the way, so that immediately makes Luigi the best person amongst these 3.
None of them.
Pretty sure only one of these has his picture on posters and t-shirts owned by teenagers all over the world. But maybe Luigi will get there some day.
Yeah but those teenagers are buying those shirts at Walmart, so who really won? If I was a left wing revolutionary I wouldn't want my legacy to be mass produced disposable commoditized virtue signals that make the rich richer
None of them really accomplished what they set out to do, in terms or societal change.
Fair but they seem to still be influential to people of today. Lots of Luigi fans.