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I think ar might be a dead dream in its current state, I always thought wed have proper ar glasses by now because I fell for Magic Leaps Marketting, not sure if it'll come anytime soon.

What I do believe is coming is the resurgence of computers through mobile phones. Everyone has a powerful computer in their pockets but isn't able to use them to their full potential. I wouldn't be suprised if android pushed out a proper android desktop experience letting android users get the full linux desktop experience when plugged into a monitor, mouse, and keyboard.

Phone performance is stronger than the average laptops/netbooks from 10 years age and they run linux fine for everyday use. Feels like a missed opportunity if someone doesn't drop a phone or os that lets you take advantage of modern hardwares capability. They could advertise it to families, mo more buying a pc for school, just get them hardware for their existing device, it can already do everything. Schools could use lapdocks, or tabletdocks, that could force school parental controls on devices while at school and still let them use it for their education while in class.

(obviously not everyone has a phone but that frees up resources for the kids that dont, if the kids that do can use cheaper docks with their exisitnt hardware)

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[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
  • Phones won't start including a Linux desktop.
  • Browser apps will be a thing of the past, you'll need to install either a mobile or desktop app to use YouTube or Netflix or whatever.
  • Sites like YouTube will also probably remove the subscriptions feed (which only like 1-2% of people use).
  • Vendor lock-in efforts will be more forceful.
  • I think more people will start touching grass.

And putting AI aside is a bit weird since it's the big news story so:

  • Companies will replace workers with generative AI, and as a result essential services will be worse (but more profitable).
  • Generative AI will outside of the above be used as a (low-reliability but low-effort) search engine, for memes, and in animation.
[–] edupo@europe.pub 3 points 2 days ago

Things will remain as they are for now. People in control don’t want you to look away from your phone.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

AR is coming around a bit but the innovations I have been following with it are less individual consumer based. The absolutely crazy one my company was trying to implement was for an area that deals with fairly dangerous chemicals and had a lot of complex piping so with the glasses they would be synced to the equipment so you could track pipes, see through walls, and see plant conditions while just wearing some AR glasses.

I know they have also talked about trying to do something similar in surgical fields as well

I personally think the cost to make a good AR interface is just way to expensive to justify the consumer market right now, like for our AR system if it stopped a single incorrect discharge it would mostly pay for itself as that could be millions of dollars/ loss of life but for an average person who might use it to see overlays of fun fact esque things while they walk around a $1000/mo cost just doesn’t make sense

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

ideally itd be a phone replacement or use your phones power to supplement its own wirelessly, kinda useless if you still need to whip your phone out, i wonder if wed have fake slabs you carry around for use in ar by ppl used to touchscreens lol

[–] MrVilliam@lemm.ee 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

We'll pay more for less in terms of software, and we'll pay more for more in terms of hardware, but nearly everybody would happily buy less. For example, the cheapest phones will be $1k+ but with unused bells and whistles, and there will be a subscription paywall to use Google maps.

We'll have less privacy and security. Our devices will be used to spy on us even more than now.

PlayStation 6 will come out. The next Xbox will have a really fucking stupid name. Call of Duty will be a 250GB game.

It will become more feasible to implement battery tech in your home. Generators will give way to a big battery for power outages. Areas with variable power rates will see people supplement their home power with battery during the day and charge them back up at night. EV adoption will continue to rise. Self driving tech will not change in a meaningful way. Fusion power will be commercially implemented, but barely break even, which is fine because that's how new tech takes early steps to optimize.

China will be far and away ahead of the US in terms of infrastructure, daily consumer tech, and overall happiness. The US will pretend otherwise and launch a targeted propaganda campaign to keep its people too dumb and busy to notice how badly they're getting fucked. But even worse than now, though.

Healthcare tech will expand. But not in the US. Not for the working class, anyway. Measles outbreaks will come in waves. Flu and a new covid strain will be devastating within 18 months. Polio will pop back up like measles currently is. Maybe TB too. Mental health will continue to get stigmatized if not fully ignored.

Physical media will be basically gone. Disc drives will as rare as actual audio CDs are in everyday life.

Lab grown meat will be more affordable, and it will bring a culture war with it.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

You're probably right about all of this.

The next Xbox will have a really fucking stupid name.

Okay, but that one is kind of a freebie. Haha.

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I could see apple maps and google colluding, both dropping paywalls same year

[–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 4 points 1 day ago

I've been trying to use organic maps more often

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Think companies will track us in our homes using wifi and well just have to accept it, like they track our actions on websites, where we click and look

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Think companies will track us in our homes using wifi and well just have to accept it

Uh...that's today, actually.

But yes, more companies will.

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[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Y'know how things have mostly gotten worse for the past five years, with most innovation going towards corporate control, and nearly all tech services moving towards enshittification?

Yeah five more years of that.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago

I actually feel like they've beat the heck out of the 5 before that. GDPR is a thing, and Windows increasingly isn't.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

trigger happy police drones - I Can't Believe It's Not A Real Cop (TM)

Probably contains "AI", though.

[–] dangling_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 days ago

We will see more and more ridiculous subscriptions. I’m talking about $200+ a month. It could be cloud services (AI or not) streaming bundle, phone plan, car entertainment plan, etc.

Top 10% accounts for 50% of consumer spending. This trend only gets worse, and soon enough, companies will stop caring about poor people and tailor their services to the rich.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

AI may well be done it's explosive growth anyway. Assume all my predictions in that case are "x existing application continues to expand".

I actually think AR is still coming - it just needs really specialised hardware to work and have acceptable battery life.

The issue with mobile OSs on desktop is that they're designed to depend on conventional OSs right now. There's no way to develop an Android app on Android, and debugging your Android from itself is possible, but only as a hack.

On to my own predictions. I'm limiting this to computers, not all technology, which I think was intended.


The fediverse slowly grows.

Geopolitics significantly weakens the US tech monopolies. FOSS benefits, although they probably are replaced by more commercial platforms for the most part.

More likely than not somebody actually mandates cryptography backdoors. It's a boondoggle, although it might not fully unravel in the window given.

There's a chance crytographically-significant quantum computing comes early and causes pandemonium. Bitcoin becomes (nearly?) worthless.

Okay, I will mention one AI thing. It's going to find a place in rendering pipelines for videogames.

The trend to heterogeneous computing continues. Analog and reversible chips become part of the mix.

Nix-type immutable systems become daily driveable.

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

I used to spend all day daydreaming about ai in class back in middleschool/highschool, magic leap had me thinking we were days away from virtual cod/harry potter dueling, real life yugioh, pokemon go had me thinking glasses were a year away lol. I've just needed to give up on AR for my own sanity, It's the one thing that feels magical when it comes to tech still and gets me delusional/overhyped. Reality would just be ads everywhere.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Restrictive OSs and stuff will become the new normal, essentially stripping us of our freedom, more things will become 1st Party only and moving your data will be even harder than ever, essentially becoming cultural houses, basically what apple has already done

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

linux is getting a push due to windows becoming more and more abusive with how they force you to use a certain ui filled with ads and ai bs

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

problem is everybody is on phones now, and its even more locked down and complicated on that side.

[–] bobo1900@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Big tech will try and create a cartel to make open source less usable. Google is already pushing Manifest V3 to make development of browsers extensions more difficult, Microsoft could try and use TPM to only allow running "certified" software, and that could be the end of OpenSource as we know it

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Its really easy to be honest, you just have to slowly take away everything and give them choices, and they will be so occupied with discussing what they want to choose, they will not even notice how we slowly strangle them

[–] bobo1900@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago

Windows update: you can no longer move the start button position people get crazy Windows update: UI improvement, now you can customize the start button position

In the meanwhile: recall, more spying, microsoft account and internet connection required for installation

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think it will keep following the cycles of "Make small gadget larger ---> Make larger gadget smaller ---> Make small gadget larger again ..." and "Turn several gadgets into one ---> Turn one gadget into several ---> Turn several gadgets into one again ..." to make sure you have to replace your gadgets for new gadgets at regular intervals. They probably will find some new annoying feature to add to all your appliances once everything from your phone to your kitchen sink has a touchscreen and a WIFI connection.

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

if you have one device they could just sell you infinite subs to upgrade it, instead of hardware you rent hardware over your high speed internet, offloading resources, like video editors where rendering takes place in the cloud with that feature built in being served by google not a third party

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

I don’t think much will change in 5 years that is not AI.

Everything is focused on AI right now. So just more powerful hardware that is geared towards running ai is all I think that will happen.

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lots of technology has reached a good-enough plateau, so I think we'll start to see some left-field ideas. I'm just going to say realistic robot pets.

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

I could see that happening forsure, maybe virtual pets, desktop buddies making a comeback could be cool

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Open source devices will become more mainstream as a push back by consumers against enshitifcation, privacy invasion, disposable products, ever rising subscription costs.

Not just things like phones and laptops but things like mice, keyboards, headphones, even tvs and kitchen appliances. I know some of these are possible now, I use a ploppy trackball and qmk based keyboards but a wider spread of these across the home and more than just hobbyists like myself.

Large chunks will be 3D printed, moving the large component parts of manufacting to the local area. Plus things will be endlessly fixable and upgradable.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The thing is, injection molding is just dummy cheap at scale. If you have a significant run of open source hardware it still makes sense.

Chips are also pretty impossible to make at small scale, so you have to account for that. To date it's possible to find a decent chipset, but I worry it might not always be.

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All of which is true but it doesn't matter if the product is crippled by the designer. Whole point of my model is that you are the designer so its only shit if you are.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I'm not saying proprietary enshittified hardware is good, lol.

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

And I think that at some point enough people will have had enough that they take on production of that themselves via open source projects.

Sure, some will always be driven by cost, thats never going to change, but self sustainability will become more desirable as main stream brands, not just temu tat, drops in quality.

[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Less bulky wearable technology, I hope.

I really like my dumb watch and have yet to find a wearable -- that isn't a watch -- that isn't clumsy or bulky

AR is not dead but it will take much longer than expected to be as light and comfortable as a pair of sunglasses.

I’m hoping to see a lot of progress in display tech. We’ve already seen first transparent screens but there is still work to be done. I would love to let my monitors „disappear“ when not in use. Also flexible displays are maturing, this could get interesting.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Year of the linux desktop for sure

[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Oop.. I didn't mean to reply to your comment. I'll stealth-edit/delete. Sorry!

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It just makes sense to me to make android phones the all in 1, now your phone is actually also your computer, much better than trying to sell chromebooks and make that work

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is already a thing

Samsung DeX was the first big one but there are a bunch of competing ones that do similar things now.

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

its just android reskinned sadly, not actually using linux desktop, sure its decent for multitasking but its just android apps reframed still

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can’t you just use GNURoot Debian and XServer SDL to get a Linux desktop env on any Android phone?

There’s an xda-developers guide on this and the two apps are still in the Google Play Store, so I assume it’s still feasible.

I’m not sure how well it plays with DeX and other similar solutions, though.

That’s assuming the apps aren’t capable enough to handle being used on a desktop on their own, of course. What sorts of gaps did you see, and in which sorts of apps?

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

always workarounds for technical ppl, itd be completely different if it was built into android tho and came with an update to existing phones

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What are the gaps in functionality for nontechnical people? And “apps that exist on Linux but not Android” doesn’t count, because such people are unlikely to have ever even used a Linux desktop in the first place. The improvement that matters won’t be Linux apps; it’ll be Android apps that are more usable in desktop mode.

That said, what are the issues with the apps that are currently available?

If a user installed Chrome, an office suite (whether that be Google Docs, Sheets, and Slides, the Microsoft equivalent, or something else), an email client, and other commonly available apps, what tasks would they be unable to complete, if any?

Are these, or other commonly used apps, substantially less usable than on desktop? If so, how so?

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

You dont have to be technical to find use out of an appstore like flathub especially if it was built in to the playstore or a seperate store

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

onlyoffice is a solid ms word, ppt, excel clone for linux, same file format, any linux app, there are many, linux games? wine, hella options?

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 day ago

OnlyOffice is available on Android already.

“any linux app” - I don’t think any nontechnical users want GParted on their Android phones, and it wouldn’t work anyway.

Android has its own games, same as iOS. Nontechnical users are way more likely to want Windows games than Linux games anyway.

Wine used to be developed natively for Android but they stopped a few years back. You can still download it at winehq though. I think Box64 with wine is a decent option?

Overall the thing I’m confused about is why you think Google or any major Android phone manufacturer have a motivation to make native Linux apps more accessible. Google certainly doesn’t want to make it easier for you to use the better versions of their competitors’ apps. Google is moving further away from Linux, not closer. Providing a usable, good enough desktop experience that’s still Android underneath makes far more sense for them.

Fortunately, like I said earlier, there are workarounds to get access to those Linux apps.

The thing that is more likely to change is for the creators of Android apps to build apps that function better when used in a phone-as-desktop format. And even if they don’t, there are enough competent web apps out there that just being able to use your browser full screen on a monitor solves 90% of people’s actual use cases - and probably over 95% when you include the other apps that have decent desktop experiences that can be run alongside them.

The Steam Deck approach is much closer to what you seem to want. The Steam Deck is an actually competent Linux machine that has a Valve-supported compatibility layer in Proton for running non-Linux games. It plugs into a USB-C hub connected to a monitor, mouse, and keyboard just fine, can install any Linux app, etc.. It’s completely usable handheld as well. But it isn’t a phone, and even though it’s quite portable, it’s not “stick into your pocket” portable.

I don’t expect a major manufacturer to make a Linux phone any time soon, and I don’t think the Linux phones that are out already have - or will have in the next 5 years - a smooth enough experience to convince any nontechnical user to switch.

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

blender, dj software like mixx, davinci resolve, video editors, kdenlive, etc. full desktop versions of apps sht on mobile versions still

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 day ago

There are mobile versions for all of those?

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

Im forsure delusional with schools tho theyll prob sell them chromebooks forever

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