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[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 1 points 16 hours ago

@bees There have been some recent studies that have solidified the relationship between autism and the MMR vaccine in particular. Gates live Polio vaccine has killed around 500,000 Africans, who knows how many it's maimed, and not to say Polio isn't worth vaccinating against, I have friends who were partially parallelized by it, but if you're killing 500,000 people something is wrong, and one of my children got heart issues after covid vax, further, he at 40 had two vaccines, damage done on the second, had three incidents of covid and the third involved a 102.9 fever, I by contrast got no covid vax, got covid twice, both times it was your average head cold, and the highest fever I had was 99.1, never went down into my lungs, same for my wife and my other son who did not get vaccinated. Vaccines are immensely profitable to the pharmaceutical industry, and just like profit in the military complex keeps wars going even if it means killing and maiming people, so to the pharma profits force unnecessary and dangerous medical interventions.

[–] xorollo@leminal.space 35 points 6 days ago (3 children)

So let me tell y'all about the crazies I work with. I burn easily, and there is very little shade, so I store sunscreen everywhere. My desk, the bathroom, my bag, the car, the office supply closet, etc. I often use it and offer to my colleagues when anyone needs to go out for a while.

We got a new guy on the team, he's going out, I suggest he take some sunscreen. He tells me that sunscreen is poison and that you don't really need it as long as you don't wear sunglasses. He tells me that it's wearing sunglasses that actually causes you to burn because your eyes don't get as much sun so your brain doesn't send the right chemicals out to protect your skin.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Sometimes I think I've heard all the batshit nonsense. Other times I read something like this.

[–] xorollo@leminal.space 3 points 5 days ago

I have a running list of shit I've heard from this guy. I'm positive it's something from Alex Jones or similar.

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So blind people never get sunburn? Or always get sunburn?

[–] xorollo@leminal.space 5 points 5 days ago

Idk. He said his wife still demands sunscreen for their children, so I'll let him fry himself in peace.

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Yeah I've seen an upsurge of people claiming sunscreen is toxic poison. Not sure where the fuck they pulled that from

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Everything that will kill you A to Z.

S is for sunscreen, but also the sun. Both give you cancer, isn’t that fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPz9Fcvb1II

[–] nik9000@programming.dev 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It's a good thing my skin isn't made of coral.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago

Some of the chemicals do show up a bit in blood, but there's no evidence it's toxic iirc.

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[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe they read something about the titanium dioxide contained in some sunscreen products. There is some research indicating that its not as safe as we thought and that it might be carcinogenic.

[–] HowAbt2day@futurology.today 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It might be but sunburn is definitely carcinogenic.

[–] Flubo@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This and nowadays (at least here in Europe) you find lots of sun screen without titanium dioxide.They all have a label with corals on it (they call it in hawaian agreement?). So its very easy to avoid nanoparticles AND protect skin. Also, its not like a few years ago that you look like a vampire when using sun screen without nanoparticles.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 days ago (3 children)

On the other hand, what bullshit is it that my stupid human body can't survive being outdoors without medicinal cream. My ancestors would be ashamed.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Mud and henna masks and other full skin coverings are extremely common among indigenous people and presumably your ancestors as well.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 points 5 days ago

We also used to have much more hair, shadowing the skin from sun

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Your ancestors had melanin production to fit their sun exposure and seldom lived past 40

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Maybe tens of thousands of years ago, but 2000ish years ago 60ish was old age. The main reason life expectancy has gone up isn't that old people didn't make it to 50, it's that young people didn't make it to 2. If a couple has 5 kids, 3 of them die as toddlers and the other two make it to 70 the average life expectancy is about 30, but that doesn't mean living past 30 is unusual.

Also, tens of thousands of years ago there was an ice age, but for the last 10k years light-skinned Europeans still had normal summers and worked in the fields.

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[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Your ancestors didn't shave

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

I don't either, but my nose isn't hairy and it would burn to a crisp outdoors.

[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

It's actually irritating to me that the sun is bombarding us with ionizing radiation

(I know, not the same intensity) but think about the amount of precautions we take before turning on a UV lamp. Or before turning on a very bright LED which you are not supposed to look directly at. Well, neither you should look directly at the sun, but you get the idea

In a perspective, sun is so radioactive it can even decay paint and plastic! It can literally cook you alive and make your skin fall in pieces. This just seems usual to us because we were born with it, people would freak the hell out if a medical procedure had the same side effects

Look, I can make a right wing campaign out of this! BAN THE SUN SAVE YOUR KIDS FROM 800T (Terahertz) RADIATION

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

It’s actually irritating to me that the sun is bombarding us with ionizing radiation

Yeah, it's called a sunburn!

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'm sure you could get signatures as long as you don't use the word sun, similar to that ban dihydrogen monoxide bit. Take video.

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Not wearing sunscreen and getting a sunburn is a psyop to get men to buy more aloe vera.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Which, btw, might feel kind of nice, but you'll still get skin cancer.

[–] Denjin@lemmings.world 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You got to give props to the people who convinced idiots that sunscreen causes cancer.

[–] billhead@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

Yeah... The number of times I've heard something along the lines of "the sunscreen is worse for you than the sunburn" is too many.

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[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

>be me
>white as everliving fuck
>put on 60 spf sun screen, as you should, and set a timer for an hour and a half to reapply, earlier than the recommended 2 hours
>alarm goes off, reapply
>STILL GET SUNBURNED

mfw

I used to have that problem. I switched to 30 spf and don't get burned anymore. I can't really explain it, but my theory is that 50+ is marketing BS and doesn't actually do anything. Or it could be that Banana Boat brand just really sucks and Hawaiian is more like lotion so it actually stays on my skin and also moisturizes, which probably helps because dry skin = gonna get burned.

[–] xorollo@leminal.space 3 points 6 days ago

Lotion is good for the first coat, but the spray is so much easier to apply when you're already sweaty and sand is everywhere.

[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Get 100 spf, I've never even tanned on that shit.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

The difference between SPF 60 and 100 is like 1.1% better UV blocking, anything over SPF 50 is in a practical sense nearly useless.

For instance SPF 30 blocks 97% of UVB rays, is it worth paying more and slathering more potentially harmful (to the environment) compounds on your skin for 98% blocking? I think not.

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I used to think the same thing, but the thing is we don't care about the energy that goes into the sunscreen, we care about the remaining percent that goes into the skin. If you go from a sunscreen that absorbs 98% of the sun's energy to one that absorbs 99% you are halving the amount of energy your skin is exposed to.

If you're still getting burned with 98% absorption, then increasing that number by 1% would actually make a huge difference. And that's without even considering things like having a safety margin for improper application.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

what if your skin has a hit point system and that 1% difference is the breaking point of sunburn

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[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

Seems like in real world use it makes a difference.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0190962219327550

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29291958/

From another thing I read, people have a tendency to not apply enough sunscreen or apply it correctly. I'm sure if everyone did it perfectly it wouldn't matter. All I know is anecdotally, when I switched to 100 I stopped getting sunburns, and I have been in situations with people who used their own lower spf, got a little burned still, and I came out of it pale white.

The price might be higher, but a quick look on Amazon and I'm seeing more than spf affecting that. The brand I buy is about 1.80 (usd) per ounce, and i see other brands with less spf for more. I see other brands with the same spf for less, and it seems like it's between ~1.10 per ounce to ~2.80 per ounce so I'm not really bothered by my price. I don't know anything about the environmental differences between spf so I won't comment on that.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The worst is when is a cloudy Summer day and you're like there's no sun mf, no need to sunscreen! But you still get burned the fuck out.

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