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I see a lot of people complaining that the Fairphone 6 doesn't have an Aux jack.

Just use an adapter cable.

A 3.5mm Aux jack takes up a significant amount of space just to connect a few wires that could be connected through USB-C anyway, that space could be used for a bigger battery.

Even if there was a good enough reason to keep Aux it should be 2.5mm Aux and not the usual 3.5 as it does exactly the same thing but uses less space

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[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I feel this is a very good unpopular opinion, as I think a lot of the annoyance about the fair phone not having a headphone jack is that they bill themselves as a sustainable phone maker who prides themselves as reducing waste and increasing repairability of their devices, something that dongles kinda fly in the face of from an ewaste perspective.

The same target group that they are aiming at generally likes stuff like expandable storage (so that they don't have to upgrade devices just to hold all their photos and stuff) and having a dead simple headphone jack so they can use one of the oldest standard ports in the world to use their headphones.

Since most newer phones have multiple days worth of battery life, I'm more than willing to sacrifice a few hours worth of runtime (maybe even a days worth) just to have a headphone jack. And you could say that I am in the minority of phone users, which is apparently true, however I'd argue I am pretty solidly in the target demographic for a fairphone, which I'm not getting due to the lack of a headphone jack. I instead, got a Sony Xperia 1 V (stupid name for a very nice phone) which offered a 3.5 mm, expandable storage, and decent repairability.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago

Same. Also on the feature list was the smallest screen I could find

[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

I agree, fwiw

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago
[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 15 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Anyone who claims they can hear the difference between an aux jack and USB-C is lying.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I can hear the difference. See, my headphones were bought in the 80s. So they have a 3.5mm jack. If I tried plugging it into a usb-c jack, it would sound AWFUL!

[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

If the dac on the USB c adapter is cheap you can absolutely tell the difference. However, even apples USB c dac is decent, so that's not really too much of the main problem.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 9 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

Cool...so I wanna listen to my headphones and charge my phone. Should I just get fucked then?

The ONLY compromise I would find acceptable, if is they had 2x usb-c ports that could handle data/audio, and one of them dedicated for charging...but guess what, that's more expensive for them compared to a 3.5mm

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

First one flat out says does not support charging.

Second one says charging, then they also say it doesn't support Samsung, apple, and laptops. Whatever the hell that means. It also states 'so you can enjoy music while charging. Note: does not support music control.

I just wouldn't trust the 2nd to function as I want, with the really weird description.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 1 points 15 hours ago

Weird descriptions is just how Aliexpress is. I think your right, the first one is a bad example, but there are definitely ones that work, I have one at home that explicitly marks the charge side and audio side.

Never tested it properly though, so YMMV.

The existence of these adapters does make me beleive that if apple/samsung/etc wanted to, they could trivially include an official one for $10 or so.

[–] helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Really depends on if it has a proper internal USB hub or not.

And with a non-PD charger its perfectly safe.

But very good point, that you do need to be careful. Especially with Aliexpress junk.

Edit: tested mine, which is a Y cord thing, like the first link, and it does not pass more than 5v to the audio side. So it really depends what you get. You can't power it from the audio side either, so there must be some kind of proper isolation.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 9 points 21 hours ago
[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

last time i bought a phone, the store had models with and without jack, i like choices, no reason to want them sell units with only the features i need

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

RING RING

Bah. Where is it? It was right here. I just have to

RING RING

find the fucking adapter. It was right in my bag in the side. Why

RING RING

is it not in that pocket? It's always there. Could

RING RING

it have fallen out? Into genpop where

RING RING

my gym clothes were? Why doesn't it fit in the winder with

RING RING

the earbuds anyway? I always lose it. Aw shit. It's Steve from

RING RING

confidential, and he is under 60 so he hates voicemail. But so do I so..

RING RING

I guess I'll have to wait until he can leave the secure area and turn on his phone and send me an SMS.

Been waiting a while, though. How long is this gonna take? I have to drive home before the sitter leaves.

Look. He's not calling me back. He's probably pissed because I was so insistent and now it looks like I flaked. And now, we've been idling in the parking lot for 10 minutes and so we gotta go before Laurie's mom comes.

Okay. Onto the freeway. Home in 30.

RING RING

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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago

Admittedly I was very stuck in the 'I hate phones not having Aux' camp because I preferred wired headphones for the longest time.

I was given some fairly poor wireless headphones and was pleasantly surprised by those, so I bought a good quality set myself. Now I've gotten so used to being untethered from my phone while listening to music, or podcasts, etc that I don't think I'd go back to wired headphones while mobile.

That just leaves stereo systems, portable speakers, vehicles and the like. All of those, instead of carrying around or leaving an aux-aux cable, swap that for a usb c to aux cable.

Or even one of these:

As OP said, more space for battery. It's also one less opening to waterproof. It took me a good long while, but I've come around to agree a headphone jack just isn't worth the extra space it takes up. It's not worthless, but there's better ways to use the space.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

I want my preamp back too, goddammit. Take my rage vote for doing this right.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Upvote. Upvote for a 2.5mm too.

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