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You have the right to a speedy deportation, anything you say may not fucking matter at all because you sound like your skin is brown so we're deporting you regardless.
The only reason I've ever seen to call the cops was when someone sped through a light, gained air over a hedge, and smashed hood first into a building. And that was just because i wanted the ambulance to get to them fast.
Noise? Never.
Fights? Never.
Strange noises. Never.
Etc etc.
All they do is cause more problems.
When you’re a woman getting the shit beat out of you by a man who could easily kill you (this is the case for the majority of men to the majority of women) and its call the cops or be seriously fucked up or killed it’s a pretty easy choice to make. Domestic violence is often one sided or at least one sided in who is able to defend themselves, it’s not a fight when one side is wildly out matched
Yeah, calling other domestic abusers to protect you is definitely the best way to deal with your abuser. It definitely won't upset them more and will surely lead to everyone being resolved.
Your dog will not be shot.
I completely understand. But there are other numbers that can be called.
what, the domestic abuse hotline with one person at the call center located at the other side of the country? that will then proceed to call the police anyways?
be realistic
Realistic? Where in a thread about calling the cops and the cops calling ICE on the victim.
I don't know how much more realistic you want to get.
if there's a breaking and entering you probably have more chance reasoning with the trespasser than having anything good come from pigs showing up.
Depends on your melanin content unfortunately. Fuck racist pigs
A random non-cop is probably going to have better de-escalation skills than a cop too
Every interaction I've ever had with police I've been the one attempting to de escalate. Literally 100%. What's frustrating is you speaking calmly and clearly pisses them off even more because they feel like you're speaking down to them. They feel like they are supposed to be the reasonable ones and you're making them look bad. Which of course you are, because they're not.
what? fuck off with this acab bullshit, it's not all black and white, if there's a knife fight in the neighbor's house i'm calling the police, and i'm appalled that there's someone who wouldnt.
what do you suggest, getting stabbed yourself? ignoring it and letting an innocent human being die? how would you even sleep with that at night?
This is exactly the use case for not allowing cops to actively help ICE. Not only are there jurisdictional issues, but now you’re discouraging people from calling help when they need it
Similar for drivers licenses. If you get into an accident, do you prefer the other driver to be licensed and insured, and take responsibility, or do you want them uninsured and hit and run?
And SNAP. Please tell me no state requires immigration status, forcing people to starve their kids
discouraging people from calling help when they need it
This is literally why they're doing it. Government makes simply existing illegal for a huge class of workers so companies abuse them as much as they want while they're too scared to call for help, no matter how bad it gets. Bonus points if the general population hates them too so even publicity doesn't matter. (Hey, totally unrelated, isn't it great how convicts are so heavily vilified for life?) I know the phrase is way overused, but The Cruelty Is The Point isn't (only) about how psycho some of these people are, it points to how they'll do anything for money.
In the end, though, this a great way for gangs gain power. People aren't going to stop calling for help, they're going to stop calling the police for help. I guess the party of law and order would love a good crime wave.
Hey, totally unrelated, isn't it great how convicts are so heavily vilified for life?
murders someone in cold blood
WhY dO yOu HaTe Me sO mUcH
Austin, Houston, and San Antonio have been working for years to try and build a non-adversarial relationship with the massive hispanic population in their area. This is key to keeping crime rates low and communities safe. Millions of dollars and thousands of hours spent on community outreach and relationship building, and Trump just takes a shit on it all overnight.
It wasn't until she called the number the next day that she learned the police had called immigration agents on her. The officer who answered the phone told her that the police report noted that ICE had been contacted, and advised her not to make a report in person or risk being detained, she said.
The only good cop is a cop that snitches and tells you not to trust the other cops.
I know I'll get downvoted to hell for this, but I have to stick up for the big Texas metros, especially Austin and Houston. They are in a constant battle against fascist state government as well as federal fuckery. The police department is legally required to alert the appropriate agencies of any open warrants. If they do not comply, the state and federal government will step in. What they are NOT required to do is to warn the victim against possible ICE detention. That is just HPD trying to do better in what is essentially a fucked situation.
SOURCE: Former Austin resident of over twenty years.
PS: That is not to say that those police departments don't have their issues. They have many. But I don't think they are as complicit with Trump's gestapo as the majority of Florida law enforcement is.
If they do not comply, the state and federal government will step in.
So the defense is, to avoid having state and federal jackboots come in, the only solution is to put on jackboots yourself and become part of the problem?
You misunderstood. I don't mean that the state or the feds will send their own people. I mean that they will literally take the police control away from the city government. The Texas legislature has been very close to doing so a number of times before I left because the city did not want to brutalize the homeless population.
The rest of the country has no idea how much and how often Austin city council butts heads with the state. Liberal council and a fascist state sharing the same.downtown area. The state legislature loves to abuse the city as a way to parade their anti-woke agenda to their rural magats.
Don't even get me started on the gerrymandering of Austin.
Nah, only snitch cops are good cops, and the responding officer just quietly filed the notification to ICE. He could have said right then "FYI, I had to notify ICE because they have an active warrant out for you" or if he was an especially good cop "forget" to, but he just quietly followed orders and reported the victim to the gestapo.
Aren’t all police agencies required to check on your warrants and report those to whatever jurisdiction they are from?
But as far as ICE, are you saying the Houston police are required to report people to ICE?
Aren’t all police agencies required to check on your warrants and report those to whatever jurisdiction they are from?
Yes
But as far as ICE, are you saying the Houston police are required to report people to ICE?
No. In fact, cities like Houston and Austin try to not volunteer information that they are not required to by law. If you read the article you'll see that the lady that called the police has an active deportation warrant, which is why the police officer was obligated to notify ICE and also why the police officer told her to not show up.
For additional context, immigration law includes specific carveouts for domestic abuse. Under the law, a victim of domestic violence cannot be deported legally regardless of their immigration status.
Party of no law and no order.
She's clearly a trouble-maker, keeps getting into fights.
/s I hope this wasn't needed...