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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

The tech behind the tool conceals the fact that messaging is taking place at all. It makes the communication indistinguishable from data sent to and from the app by our millions of regular users.

Reminds me of how the Germans in WW1 knew they couldn't trust their diplomatic codes anymore so they just sent the important messages in the normal, innocuous telegraph system and diplomatic pouches. They knew that foreign intelligence would be focused on the bogus secure messages.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

Similar to other apps, CoverDrop only provides limited protection on smartphones that are fully compromised by malware, e.g., Pegasus, which can record the screen content and user actions.

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I saw the headline and was ready to rage about why they should just use signal instead. Then I read the article and honestly this is a fucking genius use of tech

Yeah this is insanely good

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

I read it and don't understand. Why is this better than Signal? Or the 500 other secure file/messaging protocols?

Jabber seemed to work perfectly for Snowden...

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

For one, ease of access. Say you’re trying to break a story, who are you going to message with signal? Because you’re going to need to get that contact info somehow right?

Snowden is permanently stranded in Russia. That’s not exactly a great example of an anonymous source.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org -1 points 8 hours ago

Say you’re trying to break a story, who are you going to message with signal?

...The Guardian?

Because you’re going to need to get that contact info somehow right?

Use your browser? These are strange questions.

Snowden is permanently stranded in Russia. That’s not exactly a great example of an anonymous source.

Did you notice that I used the past tense?

[–] rosco385@lemmy.wtf 28 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Because analysing network traffic wouldn't allow an adversary to see what you're sending with Signal, but they could still tell you're sendig a secure message.

What the Guardian is doing is hiding that secure chat traffic inside the Guardian app, so packet sniffing would only show you're accessing news.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago

I downloaded the guardian app and couldn't find the option.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

analysing network traffic wouldn't allow an adversary to see what you're sending with Signal

How are they analyzing network traffic with Signal? It's encrypted. And why does it matter if they know you're sending a message? Literally everyone using Signal is sending a message.

[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

How are they analyzing network traffic with Signal? It's encrypted

Not my specialty, but signals end to end encryption is akin to sealing a letter. Nobody but the sender and the recipient can open that letter.

But you still gotta send it through the mail. That's the network traffic analysis that can be used.

Here's an example of why that could be bad.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Using an encrypted messaging app could itself be a red flag, using a news app is normal behavior.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Timing of messages. They can't tell what you send, but can tell when

[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 hours ago

Messaging protocols already resemble the frameworks that come out from time to time. And their effectiveness is due to the fact that they require a certain quota of users.

It's just a secure messaging app with a direct line to Guardian journalists. How to use 911 or special numbers when you're not feeling well.

[–] hera@feddit.uk 35 points 1 day ago

Love seeing open source projects from companies that aren't specifically tech firms

Horrible name sadly