what we wanted:
what we got:
i will weep for the futures lost, but i will not weep for getting mirror kira
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I mean, looking on the bright side: Even the Federation universe had to go through two civil wars, World War III, and the eugenics war to get to where they ended up.
I guess the silver lining is we'll kill ourselves off before we ever make it off the planet to spread our violence elsewhere.
Fuck yeah! I believe in us!
No, that's not what we're getting. Say what you will about the Terran Confederation, at least they built a space empire under a unified common goal. At least those humans were outrageously evil.
Instead, what we're getting is this:
We're getting neither .... we're getting this instead ...
What does that mean? What's the second icon?
Explained here: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Terran_Empire
Oh I thought this was a StarCraft reference
Swords in space??
*squinting*
We're getting the Might and Magic devs? Is that why Q was a secret boss in MM6?
That reminds me, does anyone know where I could get an agonizer repaired for cheap?
O'Brien can fix anything, and does his own Quality Assurance, so is extra cheap
Starfleet command now that's a cool name for your space agency
I might be mistaken but I think that the comparison is wrong. Starfleet and the federation are not the same.
We want the federation and we are getting the terrain empire.
We want starfleet and we are getting space force
Even Roddenberry knew by the end that his dream wasnt possible. Humans arenβt that good and altruistic, we are conquerors
Yep, were stuck with this shitty timeline
I mean, the Star Trek timeline was incredibly shitty for humans up until it wasnβt.
True. But eventually human empathy succeeded. Call me pessimistic -- the barista sure likes to -- but I just don't see that happening for this timeline!
Call me pessimistic -- the barista sure likes to
Highpoint of Hawkgirl's day, in fact!
Is that Ben Aflec?
Nah, that's Hawkman. Ben Aflac is Duckman.
WTF is a Hawkman? Isn't that Billy Chrystal in that movie Birdman?
Nah, a Hawkman is a semi-immortal Egyptian who keeps getting reincarnated only to be murdered by the same jerk again and again for thousands of years.
Also: the worst character of the main ones in Legends of Tomorrow
We have to go through at least two major conflicts first, ww3 and the eugenics wars, according to trek.
At least we are on track for those i suppose π€§
Right! Maybe that's why all these tech bros are embracing Dark Enlightenment. Trying to bring it about way sooner than makes sense.
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Did you see the gallery at the trial in Encounter at Farpoint? Mid-21st humanity seems right on track for Star Trek future.
did i see itβ½ where do you think i get fashion tips?
I must have missed it!
The word Utopia translates to "No place".
There is no such thing as a utopia. The point of stories about utopias is just to get people to think about how to improve things. Not to make people upset they aren't living in a place that can never exist.
The world presented by Star Trek isn't telling you how things should be, how could it? It's wildly inconsistent about how things work, like do they have money or not? It seems it's just conveying they have an ideal future economy, but since the writers don't know what that will be, it's deliberately vague.
The point is to show various problems we have today from the perspective of people in a better future so we can understand that our problems as solvable and motivate us to solve them.
If you're giving up on solving the problems we have today because they seem impossible to solve or you believe they should magically solve themselves, then you're missing the point of Star Trek.
Strange that the Space Force logo is a combination of bothβ¦
Not sure how they can just steal the Star Trek logo thoβ¦
The original NASA logo was the inspiration for the star trek insignia.
So really this is more like a nod to a nodder.
Youβre a nodder
Your mum's a nodder
And your children will be nodders!
(I read the whole exchange in Michael Caineβs voice.)
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They're the US.
That map projection though
RIP Australia.
Make. Greenland. Bigger.
We don't know that yet. First we have to go through the nuclear war before we can get to Starfleet. We're speed running it now.
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It's ok. It just means we can cross over to the brighter side.
Orca approved.
Free ~~Willy~~ Lorca!
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