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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

What we wanted

What we're getting

I guess the silver lining is we'll kill ourselves off before we ever make it off the planet to spread our violence elsewhere.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago

No, that's not what we're getting. Say what you will about the Terran Confederation, at least they built a space empire under a unified common goal. At least those humans were outrageously evil.

Instead, what we're getting is this:

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 hours ago

We're getting neither .... we're getting this instead ...

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What does that mean? What's the second icon?

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 hours ago

Swords in space??

[–] Apeman42@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

*squinting*

We're getting the Might and Magic devs? Is that why Q was a secret boss in MM6?

Even Roddenberry knew by the end that his dream wasnt possible. Humans aren’t that good and altruistic, we are conquerors

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Starfleet command now that's a cool name for your space agency

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That reminds me, does anyone know where I could get an agonizer repaired for cheap?

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

O'Brien can fix anything, and does his own Quality Assurance, so is extra cheap

[–] notarobot@lemm.ee 20 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I might be mistaken but I think that the comparison is wrong. Starfleet and the federation are not the same.

We want the federation and we are getting the terrain empire.

We want starfleet and we are getting space force

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 hours ago

The word Utopia translates to "No place".

There is no such thing as a utopia. The point of stories about utopias is just to get people to think about how to improve things. Not to make people upset they aren't living in a place that can never exist.

The world presented by Star Trek isn't telling you how things should be, how could it? It's wildly inconsistent about how things work, like do they have money or not? It seems it's just conveying they have an ideal future economy, but since the writers don't know what that will be, it's deliberately vague.

The point is to show various problems we have today from the perspective of people in a better future so we can understand that our problems as solvable and motivate us to solve them.

If you're giving up on solving the problems we have today because they seem impossible to solve or you believe they should magically solve themselves, then you're missing the point of Star Trek.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Strange that the Space Force logo is a combination of both…

Not sure how they can just steal the Star Trek logo tho…

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The original NASA logo was the inspiration for the star trek insignia.

So really this is more like a nod to a nodder.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Your mum's a nodder

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 1 points 9 hours ago

Sure, but compare NASA next to Starfleet / Star Trek next to Space Force. Two of them look remarkably similar…

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 6 points 10 hours ago

They're the US.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 34 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, were stuck with this shitty timeline

[–] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, the Star Trek timeline was incredibly shitty for humans up until it wasn’t.

[–] regedit@feddit.online 17 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

True. But eventually human empathy succeeded. Call me pessimistic -- the barista sure likes to -- but I just don't see that happening for this timeline!

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Call me pessimistic -- the barista sure likes to

Highpoint of Hawkgirl's day, in fact!

[–] regedit@feddit.online 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, that's Hawkman. Ben Aflac is Duckman.

[–] regedit@feddit.online 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

WTF is a Hawkman? Isn't that Billy Chrystal in that movie Birdman?

Nah, a Hawkman is a semi-immortal Egyptian who keeps getting reincarnated only to be murdered by the same jerk again and again for thousands of years.

Also: the worst character of the main ones in Legends of Tomorrow

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 25 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

We have to go through at least two major conflicts first, ww3 and the eugenics wars, according to trek.

At least we are on track for those i suppose 🀧

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Didn’t we go through it already like, last week?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

No, that was the Bell Riots. WWIII is scheduled to start in 2026.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Well, shit… WWIII just started boys..

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Yes but unfortunately the β€œsanctuary district” in El Salvador still has an entrance but no exit, we may need to riot a bit more

[–] regedit@feddit.online 8 points 12 hours ago

Right! Maybe that's why all these tech bros are embracing Dark Enlightenment. Trying to bring it about way sooner than makes sense.

[–] cattywampas@lemm.ee 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Did you see the gallery at the trial in Encounter at Farpoint? Mid-21st humanity seems right on track for Star Trek future.

[–] regedit@feddit.online 1 points 4 hours ago

I must have missed it!

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 25 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

That map projection though

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 hours ago

RIP Australia.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago

Make. Greenland. Bigger.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

We don't know that yet. First we have to go through the nuclear war before we can get to Starfleet. We're speed running it now.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Shouldn't the Eugenics Wars have already happened?

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Depends. SNW retconned it and said the Temporal Cold War pushed it up.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

Ok so that's something we can still look forward to!

[–] lath@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's ok. It just means we can cross over to the brighter side.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

Free ~~Willy~~ Lorca!