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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/67352766

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Monitored and secured are mutually exclusive.

[–] medem@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From a purely technical perspective, I am very interested in reading/researching just how they are planning to implement this.

From a social/democratic perspective, I am very interested in finding out just what the hell they mean by 'a well founded suspicion'. Interesting times ahead.

[–] bndkt@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Probably by infiltrating the end device using something like NSO

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"The aim is to make people planning terrorist attacks in Austria feel less secure - and increase everyone else's sense of security," Joerg Leichtfried of the Social Democrats, the junior minister in charge of overseeing the Directorate for State Security and Intelligence (DSN), told a news conference.

Paradoxon.

"That is why this decision by the cabinet today is an important milestone in the fight against terrorism and spying in Austria," he added.

What the fuck? You increase spying.

[–] slackness@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

What about people planning terrorist attacks before they go into Austria? The geniuses did not think about that.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago

They'll never understand, or never admit yo understanding, that if you put a door in a wall, everyone will exploit it. Just think of how city defense worked before flight. Every invader would go after the gate and it was much, much easier to penetrate than the rest of the wall. But in this case that gate will be totally unguarded, so anyone who figures out how to open it, will open it for everyone. And will make tools for others to use to unlock and open it easily and it will be very difficult to change it if it's the same gate with the same key used by everyone. Imagine if door locks were all the same. No one would bother locking their doors if it was that easy to unlock instantly. And that's what the real goal is. To make people stop using security.

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Will this affect Matrix? I use g24.at as my homeserver.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Probably. I think they may fine homeserver operators in the EU, maybe even raid their homes or jail them. But to me its unclear whether hosting it, or also using it will be a criminal offence.

Hopefully neither, and we can jail the real terrorists, those who want to get this implemented.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

E2EE comms are not monitorable. That's like, the whole purpose of using them.

[–] bndkt@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

You just have to infiltrate one end, e.g. the smartphone of one party

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Article talks about Austrian spooks getting tipped about a concert attack by UK spooks that got it from WhatsApp?

[–] slackness@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Can you really talk about E2EE on a closed source app? The whole point of E2EE is I don't trust the vendor. If they give me a blob as a client and tell me it's E2EE, am I supposed to just trust them all of a sudden?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 day ago

Zucc shares the info