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[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Lets have another peaceful protest, it will work this time.

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[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 9 hours ago

If these people approached me I would shoot.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 28 points 9 hours ago

4chan summer camp

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 24 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (8 children)

Everybody should always call the cops if they ever see this anywhere at anytime. That's insane.

Why would the cops do anything?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago

The cops? You sure that's a great idea for a brown person?

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 4 points 6 hours ago

To help them shoot at you?

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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 53 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's 2025. America. You see these men on the street.

If you assume they are going to rob a bank dial 911.

If you assume they are going to lynch someone dial 911.

If you assume they are going to kidnap someone dial 911.

If you assume they are law enforcement then get your eyes checked. They aren't wearing any identifying uniform, no insignia, no badges.

If you assume they are impersonating law enforcement then dial 911 and get your eyes checked.

[–] MisanthropiCynic@lemmy.today 12 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Definitely don’t call 911. That just gives them more backup. They look like terrorists in the streets. It’s actually illegal here to wear a mask over your face while demonstrating or armed so they are under stand your ground territory

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 20 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If someone wearing a balaclava and civilian clothes grabs you, I'm pretty sure it's reasonable to stab them.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

You can only use proportional force to defend yourself under stand your ground laws. If you stab someone that is only using their body parts then you go to jail. Will a jury convict? It will take a year or two to find out.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Well the thing is there are more than 1 of them. Would it not be proportional to stab them if you get ganged on by 4 to 5 of them?

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 0 points 2 hours ago

That's not true in all states. In Florida, if you feel genuinely threatened, you can respond with deadly force, no matter what the other guy is threatening you with.

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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If you stand your ground you still go to jail. Even if you are released you still got more inconvenienced than them.

As a white person I'm at minimal risk from them. But in order to stand your ground for another person they must have a legal right to be where they are. And if they are, in fact, not legally here, then bad things happen to you.

[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

If you don't, it's possible you're going to a concentration camp. Think I rather get tried by a jury of my peers.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

And what if they take your ID, claim you aren't a citizen so you don't get due process and then they deport you to a foreign prison?

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[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 43 points 13 hours ago

They look like random Grand Theft Auto enemies that you wipe out by the dozen.

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 38 points 13 hours ago

They know what they’re doing is wrong. And outside the law

They know if they are identified they will be dealt with. Outside the law.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 32 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

That's a lynching posse, and not a gathering of lawn enforcement officers.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like one of those nazi rallies. They're all white too. Lmao its so obvious.

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 30 points 13 hours ago

Take the mask off “patriot”

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

There's bound to actually be free candy in one of those damn unmarked vans.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Is that like Murphy's razor?

Anything that can be true is likely to be true at least once, and at the worst possible moment?

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Just bad advice we give all middle schoolers. If at first you don't succeed, try try again.

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 33 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

No badges, no name tags, no exposed faces… let’s see “ ICE “ try this in a state with strong self defense laws.

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[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 65 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

These guys look like they're about to rob a bank.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 20 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Its sad really. They think this makes them good Americans, and probably satisfies their personal insecurities. You can tell by their stance they feel pretty powerful, but they look like clowns, and hiding their face makes it pretty empty, like kids playing sheriff.

[–] BadlyTimedLuck@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Nah, I imagine bank robbers as classy. These thugs look like the "gang members" they're so desperately scared of. They look like they're hiding weapons in their pockets to cause public terror. They look like they're about to jump me for being in their territory and mug me of all my belongings. They make me feel like I should avoid walking down whatever street they're holding up.

These are straight up criminals, looking like they're about to commit crime.

[–] MisanthropiCynic@lemmy.today 9 points 10 hours ago

Those masks and them carrying weapons is an automatic felony in my jurisdiction and any shop owner pleading stand your ground would be praised by the community. They don’t like immigrants here, but they hate the federal government even more.

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[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

People should call and report suspicious armed men about to rob or do something nefarious. Get the locals all twisted up with reports. Get them scared then sick them on the federallies.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago

Someone should dress up like ICE themselves, and disappear people like this. When they insist they're citizens, just call their documents fake and usher them into waiting vans at gunpoint. That's the only way this madness will end. It's only when the lives of ICE agents themselves are at risk from this that thing have a hope of changing.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 42 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

These are criminals. There's nothing to indicate that they are any type of law enforcement.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

I don't know how self defense laws function over there. But surely if someone dressed like that approaches you, you are free to shoot them/defend yourself right? Surely wearing a balaclava shows bad intentions accordingly to the law?

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 12 hours ago

Reminds me of the SS in many ways

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 27 points 16 hours ago

they are terrorists, any common sense judicial system would consider it legal to shoot them in self defense

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

But this is America, always has been

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 40 points 16 hours ago

Fucking fascists

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Just being honest. If someone in mask comes to my car, I'm pulling away. If you are caught by a wheel, then it's on you. Identify who you are.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 30 points 16 hours ago

They wouldn't hide their face if what they were doing wasn't shameful

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 117 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Not even remotely hyperbolic here, I 100% would assume they’re randos gang members or doing criminality attempting to kidnap then murder me, and I’d fight back accordingly. Not even a badge on a neck chain or belt clip jfc covered head to toe

Just the same as if a mugging becomes “get into the van” no you fucking shouldn’t because their goals are now no longer your property, but now your life

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 63 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Never let the assailant take you to the secondary location.

Urban self defense classes have been teaching this since the 1970s, at least.

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[–] gabbath@lemmy.world 47 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Send this to your MAGA relatives with the caption "these guys good or bad?" and no additional context.

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[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 81 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like four domestic terrorists.

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[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 35 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

I am curious to see how many incidentscome out where there are of ACTUAL kidnappings that happen because some geniuses get the idea to just go grab some people and throw them in a van while dressing up like these ICE idiots.

You want to give gangs a free pass to grab random people or rivals off the street? Make your "official govt activity" look like gang activity.

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[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

This is nightmare fuel

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 20 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
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