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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 20 minutes ago* (last edited 20 minutes ago)

Look how wide that dude's stance is. Fucking loser. What a bunch of big tough guys with masks. Show your faces, and be proud of your actions bitches.

[–] Bravo@eviltoast.org 32 points 2 hours ago

Has anyone actually confirmed that those guys are actually ICE? Because they look like I could pretend to be ICE and get away with it.

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 15 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well. If there's nothing identifying them as an arm of the state, it's legal to shoot them in self defense should they try to kidnap you. You can also say that the law doesn't matter anymore as the US government is flagrantly violating it but that also means that the law no longer has legitimacy as the government is breaking it's end of the social contract. Therefore, normal morality in the absence of law applies which says that self defense is legitimate.

[–] PillBugTheGreat@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

Libertarianism at last. We made it boys. Rand Paul can be seen wanking it furiously on his front lawn.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 6 points 2 hours ago

Lets have another peaceful protest, it will work this time.

[–] CouncilOfFriends@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 hours ago

Appears brown shirts weren't in stock at Kohl's

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 22 points 5 hours ago

4chan summer camp

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 5 hours ago

If these people approached me I would shoot.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (4 children)

Everybody should always call the cops if they ever see this anywhere at anytime. That's insane.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 23 minutes ago

This is actually the right move.

Literally find a payphone, pick it up, call 911 and say there's a group of dangerous looking masked individuals at (name of location), and I'm scared that it's not safe here.

Then immediately drop the phone and walk away. It seems rude but if you hang up or stop responding the correct action on the 911 operators side is to expect the worst and literally send everyone to that location, lights and sirens.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 19 minutes ago

The cops? You sure that's a great idea for a brown person?

Why would the cops do anything?

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 4 points 3 hours ago

To help them shoot at you?

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 47 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's 2025. America. You see these men on the street.

If you assume they are going to rob a bank dial 911.

If you assume they are going to lynch someone dial 911.

If you assume they are going to kidnap someone dial 911.

If you assume they are law enforcement then get your eyes checked. They aren't wearing any identifying uniform, no insignia, no badges.

If you assume they are impersonating law enforcement then dial 911 and get your eyes checked.

[–] MisanthropiCynic@lemmy.today 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Definitely don’t call 911. That just gives them more backup. They look like terrorists in the streets. It’s actually illegal here to wear a mask over your face while demonstrating or armed so they are under stand your ground territory

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If you stand your ground you still go to jail. Even if you are released you still got more inconvenienced than them.

As a white person I'm at minimal risk from them. But in order to stand your ground for another person they must have a legal right to be where they are. And if they are, in fact, not legally here, then bad things happen to you.

[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 1 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago) (1 children)

If you don't, it's possible you're going to a concentration camp. Think I rather get tried by a jury of my peers.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 2 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

And what if they take your ID, claim you aren't a citizen so you don't get due process and then they deport you to a foreign prison?

[–] HowdWeGetHereAnyways@lemmy.world 2 points 32 minutes ago (1 children)

Yo they have discussed suspending habeus corpus.

The only black bag I'm going in is a body bag.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 18 minutes ago

Discussed? My dude it's already been happening for months.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If someone wearing a balaclava and civilian clothes grabs you, I'm pretty sure it's reasonable to stab them.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 2 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

You can only use proportional force to defend yourself under stand your ground laws. If you stab someone that is only using their body parts then you go to jail. Will a jury convict? It will take a year or two to find out.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

Well the thing is there are more than 1 of them. Would it not be proportional to stab them if you get ganged on by 4 to 5 of them?

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 41 points 9 hours ago

They look like random Grand Theft Auto enemies that you wipe out by the dozen.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

Looks like one of those nazi rallies. They're all white too. Lmao its so obvious.

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

But this is America, always has been

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 31 points 10 hours ago

They know what they’re doing is wrong. And outside the law

They know if they are identified they will be dealt with. Outside the law.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 24 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

That's a lynching posse, and not a gathering of lawn enforcement officers.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There's bound to actually be free candy in one of those damn unmarked vans.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Is that like Murphy's razor?

Anything that can be true is likely to be true at least once, and at the worst possible moment?

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Just bad advice we give all middle schoolers. If at first you don't succeed, try try again.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 26 points 10 hours ago

Take the mask off “patriot”

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 29 points 10 hours ago

No badges, no name tags, no exposed faces… let’s see “ ICE “ try this in a state with strong self defense laws.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

People should call and report suspicious armed men about to rob or do something nefarious. Get the locals all twisted up with reports. Get them scared then sick them on the federallies.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

Someone should dress up like ICE themselves, and disappear people like this. When they insist they're citizens, just call their documents fake and usher them into waiting vans at gunpoint. That's the only way this madness will end. It's only when the lives of ICE agents themselves are at risk from this that thing have a hope of changing.

[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 60 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

These guys look like they're about to rob a bank.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Its sad really. They think this makes them good Americans, and probably satisfies their personal insecurities. You can tell by their stance they feel pretty powerful, but they look like clowns, and hiding their face makes it pretty empty, like kids playing sheriff.

[–] BadlyTimedLuck@lemmy.world 21 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Nah, I imagine bank robbers as classy. These thugs look like the "gang members" they're so desperately scared of. They look like they're hiding weapons in their pockets to cause public terror. They look like they're about to jump me for being in their territory and mug me of all my belongings. They make me feel like I should avoid walking down whatever street they're holding up.

These are straight up criminals, looking like they're about to commit crime.

[–] MisanthropiCynic@lemmy.today 7 points 6 hours ago

Those masks and them carrying weapons is an automatic felony in my jurisdiction and any shop owner pleading stand your ground would be praised by the community. They don’t like immigrants here, but they hate the federal government even more.

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[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 39 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

These are criminals. There's nothing to indicate that they are any type of law enforcement.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

I don't know how self defense laws function over there. But surely if someone dressed like that approaches you, you are free to shoot them/defend yourself right? Surely wearing a balaclava shows bad intentions accordingly to the law?

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 hours ago

Reminds me of the SS in many ways

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 25 points 12 hours ago

they are terrorists, any common sense judicial system would consider it legal to shoot them in self defense

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 37 points 13 hours ago

Fucking fascists

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Just being honest. If someone in mask comes to my car, I'm pulling away. If you are caught by a wheel, then it's on you. Identify who you are.

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[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

This is nightmare fuel

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