Look how wide that dude's stance is. Fucking loser. What a bunch of big tough guys with masks. Show your faces, and be proud of your actions bitches.
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Has anyone actually confirmed that those guys are actually ICE? Because they look like I could pretend to be ICE and get away with it.
Well. If there's nothing identifying them as an arm of the state, it's legal to shoot them in self defense should they try to kidnap you. You can also say that the law doesn't matter anymore as the US government is flagrantly violating it but that also means that the law no longer has legitimacy as the government is breaking it's end of the social contract. Therefore, normal morality in the absence of law applies which says that self defense is legitimate.
Libertarianism at last. We made it boys. Rand Paul can be seen wanking it furiously on his front lawn.
Lets have another peaceful protest, it will work this time.
Appears brown shirts weren't in stock at Kohl's
4chan summer camp
If these people approached me I would shoot.
Everybody should always call the cops if they ever see this anywhere at anytime. That's insane.
This is actually the right move.
Literally find a payphone, pick it up, call 911 and say there's a group of dangerous looking masked individuals at (name of location), and I'm scared that it's not safe here.
Then immediately drop the phone and walk away. It seems rude but if you hang up or stop responding the correct action on the 911 operators side is to expect the worst and literally send everyone to that location, lights and sirens.
The cops? You sure that's a great idea for a brown person?
Why would the cops do anything?
To help them shoot at you?
It's 2025. America. You see these men on the street.
If you assume they are going to rob a bank dial 911.
If you assume they are going to lynch someone dial 911.
If you assume they are going to kidnap someone dial 911.
If you assume they are law enforcement then get your eyes checked. They aren't wearing any identifying uniform, no insignia, no badges.
If you assume they are impersonating law enforcement then dial 911 and get your eyes checked.
Definitely don’t call 911. That just gives them more backup. They look like terrorists in the streets. It’s actually illegal here to wear a mask over your face while demonstrating or armed so they are under stand your ground territory
If you stand your ground you still go to jail. Even if you are released you still got more inconvenienced than them.
As a white person I'm at minimal risk from them. But in order to stand your ground for another person they must have a legal right to be where they are. And if they are, in fact, not legally here, then bad things happen to you.
If you don't, it's possible you're going to a concentration camp. Think I rather get tried by a jury of my peers.
And what if they take your ID, claim you aren't a citizen so you don't get due process and then they deport you to a foreign prison?
Yo they have discussed suspending habeus corpus.
The only black bag I'm going in is a body bag.
Discussed? My dude it's already been happening for months.
If someone wearing a balaclava and civilian clothes grabs you, I'm pretty sure it's reasonable to stab them.
You can only use proportional force to defend yourself under stand your ground laws. If you stab someone that is only using their body parts then you go to jail. Will a jury convict? It will take a year or two to find out.
Well the thing is there are more than 1 of them. Would it not be proportional to stab them if you get ganged on by 4 to 5 of them?
They look like random Grand Theft Auto enemies that you wipe out by the dozen.
Looks like one of those nazi rallies. They're all white too. Lmao its so obvious.
But this is America, always has been
They know what they’re doing is wrong. And outside the law
They know if they are identified they will be dealt with. Outside the law.
That's a lynching posse, and not a gathering of lawn enforcement officers.
There's bound to actually be free candy in one of those damn unmarked vans.
Is that like Murphy's razor?
Anything that can be true is likely to be true at least once, and at the worst possible moment?
Just bad advice we give all middle schoolers. If at first you don't succeed, try try again.
Take the mask off “patriot”
No badges, no name tags, no exposed faces… let’s see “ ICE “ try this in a state with strong self defense laws.
People should call and report suspicious armed men about to rob or do something nefarious. Get the locals all twisted up with reports. Get them scared then sick them on the federallies.
Someone should dress up like ICE themselves, and disappear people like this. When they insist they're citizens, just call their documents fake and usher them into waiting vans at gunpoint. That's the only way this madness will end. It's only when the lives of ICE agents themselves are at risk from this that thing have a hope of changing.
These guys look like they're about to rob a bank.
Its sad really. They think this makes them good Americans, and probably satisfies their personal insecurities. You can tell by their stance they feel pretty powerful, but they look like clowns, and hiding their face makes it pretty empty, like kids playing sheriff.
Nah, I imagine bank robbers as classy. These thugs look like the "gang members" they're so desperately scared of. They look like they're hiding weapons in their pockets to cause public terror. They look like they're about to jump me for being in their territory and mug me of all my belongings. They make me feel like I should avoid walking down whatever street they're holding up.
These are straight up criminals, looking like they're about to commit crime.
Those masks and them carrying weapons is an automatic felony in my jurisdiction and any shop owner pleading stand your ground would be praised by the community. They don’t like immigrants here, but they hate the federal government even more.
These are criminals. There's nothing to indicate that they are any type of law enforcement.
I don't know how self defense laws function over there. But surely if someone dressed like that approaches you, you are free to shoot them/defend yourself right? Surely wearing a balaclava shows bad intentions accordingly to the law?
Reminds me of the SS in many ways
they are terrorists, any common sense judicial system would consider it legal to shoot them in self defense
Fucking fascists
Just being honest. If someone in mask comes to my car, I'm pulling away. If you are caught by a wheel, then it's on you. Identify who you are.
This is nightmare fuel