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“To facilitate this vetting, all applicants for F, M and J non-immigrant visas will be asked to adjust the privacy settings on all their social media profiles to ‘public’”, the official said. “The enhanced social media vetting will ensure we are properly screening every single person attempting to visit our country.”

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[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

First they come for the students, then next they'll come for the usual business visas.

I guess it's time to make my porn site bookmarks public for the sake of a visa. Maybe I should join a MAGA group on Facebook and praise our lord and savior, DJT.

On a serious note, does this cover ALL social media, including whatsapp too? So it is literally "you surrender everything just to study". That's fucked up.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why any international students still want to go to the US is beyond me.

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 0 points 12 hours ago

What's more lucrative than a fascist driven school that used to not suffer a brain drain out of the continent because of their obliging to fascist rulings, when you can chose basically anything else?

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago

They finally catch up on technology just in time to be behind again.

Many are rejecting social media at this point. That number will continue to grow

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So, what happens when someone that doesn't have social media accounts applies for a visa? I assume they just won't believe such a thing and deny the visa since you can't prove a negative. Would it make sense for such people to make a social media account and just not use it? This is ridiculous.

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago
  1. Create X account
  2. Follow DJT
  3. Retweet/Favorite our lord's tweet.
  4. Write some random shit and praise our lord.
  5. Repeat 2 and 3 everyday
[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would make considerably more sense to not travel to the US, for education or anything else

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

Parts of the US have excellent education. Or, well, had

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 14 points 1 day ago

I guess start one, and just post praises to glorious leaders

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago

That's fine, who in their right mind would want to go there now anyways

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 90 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I see many of these students straight up deleting their profiles.

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 65 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Alternatively, they'll have a "public facing" social media, and a real one.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah, I can see not having a social media profile at all being treated as tantamount to sedition before too long

I LOVE THE SUPREME LEADER! LONG LIVE THE SUPREME LEADER!

whispers: "have they left yet?" 👀

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago

I’m so happy that I was able to skip all that stuff.

I stoped using my mainstream social media around the years ago.

I kept the profiles, and I think it is good as I can just share them if I’m ever required to.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Anyone applying to colleges probably has one already.

[–] chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 days ago

Which is probably a net positive on their lives. The less social media the better.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 days ago

I will imagine that will be seen as suspicious. Interesting businesss to sell clean aged social media account for US only vetting..

Me: I don’t have a social media account Officer: Sure buddy, wait on a side until you do.

[–] HalifaxJones@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Im seeing people come in and out with burner phones that are set up to look clean and minimal.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 3 points 2 days ago

Careful curation

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

By this point who in their right mind would willingly enter the USA...

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

and if you don't have one?

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

To them that is already suspicious enough to not let you in the country and put you on some list of known terrorists.

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago

"You better not have said anything mean on there that hurts Donald's feefees."

[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

And the shittiness continues

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 days ago

My visa application got rejected for posting a watermelon emoji on Myspace in nineteen dickety two.

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

Everyone hated on her for speaking the truth.

"Do not come"

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Welp, looks like I won't be allowed into America. Oh no. How unfortunate.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago

Of course you will! There are 30 countries in america, and 29 of them welcome you.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 38 points 2 days ago

The subtext here: “if you post anti-Israel stuff, you can kiss your chances goodbye!”

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 day ago

opens fedi

presents timeline filled with non-binary catgirls meowing at each other

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you just have some random handle that isn’t your name. How are they gonna trace that to you?

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How are they gonna trace that to you?

The modern Internet is essentially about spying on you as much as possible and then selling the data to whoever wants to buy it. Linking identities with devices/browsers is worth a lot of money and so most every website/app has a way of linking you to the devices and software that you use.

Unless the user took some pretty extreme measures to create the account, they've likely logged in from a phone/ip/browser that has been linked to their real identity at some point in its lifetime. That link will be sold to data brokers and used to tie the random handle to you, the person. Then the State Department just buys that information.

Alternatively, you should be assuming that sovereign entities with the means are reading all public network data. There's a lot of information that you can learn from that as well. Like, over time, the posts from the 'random' account could be strongly correlated to the times that you were accessing the site even if all of the data was encrypted with HTTPS.

Alternatively, alternatively. There is a threat known as Store Now Decrypt Later (SNDL). The idea is basically: Quantum Computers are coming and they can break some cryptographic primitives. If someone saves all of the encrypted traffic that they would want to read, in a few years they will have the means to read that data. We won't know when this moment occurs, because it'll likely be a secret, but we do know that it will happen and so you should additionally assume that anything that isn't using post-quantum encryption, which transited a public network, will be read and used to link you to your identities.

This is, essentially, the core thing that the Privacy community is attempting to mitigate.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m not a privacy expert.

And I know that, sadly, they probably have a lot more data on me than I’d like. Even though I don’t have traditional social media anymore, and I use VPNs to access Lemmy, that’s just normie precaution stuff. Anyway I do have a Google, Apple, accounts and the like.

My question is this: what do you / y’all think about the prospect of “poisoning the well”?

Meaning: you set up multiple traditional social media accounts, generate fake profile photos for them, give them the same real name as you and part of the country as you live in, and have AI chatbots fill ‘em up with generated posts matching a particular “personality profile”?

Would that be an effective countermeasure against this sort of data collection? Increase the noise-to-signal ratio?

Just thinking out loud here.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

The problem with trying to increase the signal to noise ratio is that you don't know all of the datapoints that are being collected and some of those datapoints could be used to filter the real from the fake.

Like, in your example, if you made all of these account from the same browser then they could be linked together. If they were made on the same IP, they could be linked together. If you were using the same phone, they could be linked together. Those are just the datapoints that we know to try to protect, it's the datapoints that you don't know that get you.

Like, maybe your phone or desktop is screenshotting itself every 5 seconds ("for AI purposes") or maybe the app that you're trying to fool also secretly sends your GPS location during account creation or maybe the adversary has malware running on your PC which is keylogging you.

IF you knew all of the ways that they were collecting data on you, then you could take countermeasures. Since you don't, you have to assume that any of your identities can be linked to your person unless you take unusual measures such, not using Microsoft/Google/Meta/Amazon/etc products at a minimum. Depending on your security needs this could also mean things like using burner hardware, non-commercial VPNs, physically disabling sensors/radios/ports, traffic/network monitoring, etc.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

Officer: please wait on the side

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 28 points 2 days ago

Looks like the US is not the country of choice anymore. Setting a profile to public means gets to see all those things you that may be embarrassing, career limiting, life threatening etc.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Wasn't this always the case? I remember flying into the US during the Biden era as a tourist and had to declare my social media accounts.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

During the Biden administration I should have gone to the US over 25 times, and 3 more during Trump's new term, and not once have they asked me for anything other than "how long are you here for" and "what's the purpose of your trip".

I guess I'm lucky, because I don't have a single mainstream social media account.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Biden didn't seem to care if you called him a "Demented Old Man"

This current administration is led by a crybaby

[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Both claims are true.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago

Yes I recalled that too but I don’t recall the public aspect to be turned on.

[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

Wait really? 😂