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[–] kyle@lemm.ee 2 points 20 minutes ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago)

Edit: I'm pretty sure the article is just going for shock value, and a lot of the commenters are getting baited. The City isn't looking to make 911 calls go to an AI. It's people who call the non-emergency line.

I design call centers (including for PubSec) for a living. We have a service offering for a non-emergency 911 bot. It's honestly not even that new of a feature, it was around before the generative AI boom. Dispatch Centers are chronically understaffed, the job is hella stressful, there's a lot of attrition and training new employees takes a lot of time because the calls can be sensitive or complex.

There is a pretty defined split in different cities (I mostly do state & local govt, not federal) in terms of who wants AI and who despises it. Some folks that lead dispatch groups are VERY adamant that everything needs to be a person, they often have big egos because their call center is "the most important" in any city.

And yeah, we've implemented the non emergency 911 bot for customers before. Our design starts with an agent though, and if the agent makes the determination that it's not an emergency, they transfer the call over to the automated line. Btw, roughly half of all calls into a 911 center are actual "emergencies". So they get a shit ton of calls they don't need to, my guess is just because 911 is easy to remember and a non emergency line isn't, I feel like we need another 3 digit line for "not life and death but still important" calls.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

How many people are going to die before they switch back?

[–] chebur54@lemmy.world 3 points 47 minutes ago

Idiocracy was definitely a documentary.

[–] Bman915@lemmy.world 24 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I've worked as a first responder for a number of years, our county like many have an emergency number, 911, and a non-emergency number, i.e. 123-456-7890. We actually carry cards with the nom emergency number on it with us in the truck to pass out if a call was less than an emergency for people in our county to put into their phones for future use. We also are a smaller place and only ever have 2-3 dispatchers on at a time, so if the calls on the non-emergency line they got could be 'auto-filled' by the AI with the location, need, and everything and wasn't tieing up a dispatcher that would be great. The main 911 number needs to ALWAYS be human answered. If the dispatcher makes the decision that it is non-emergent and transfers it over to the AI when they're busy then great, but those first words you hear after you hit 911 needs to be human.

[–] kyle@lemm.ee 1 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

I design call centers for my job, we have an AI bot that can handle non emergency calls and what you said at the end is how we do it.

911 calls always start with a person, and the dispatcher can make the determination to transfer to the non-emergency bot. Y'all get too many calls that aren't actual emergencies tbh.

Edit: I looked up Versaterm's solution, CallTriage, and it's important to note that the AI isn't for 911 calls, it's for non-emergency line calls only. The article is conflating the non-emergency calls with 911 calls for shock value.

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

AI is horrible at understanding context. remember when that lady was calling the police about her abuser and coded it to sound like a pizza order? yea I can see an AI hanging up

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

you have a link to that? interesting

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago

Without reducing headcount, right? Right?

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

So if you are in trouble or held against your will and you say you'll order pizza but sneK a call to 911 for help instead and pretend to order and give your address for delivery hoping an operator catches on.... Doubt the AI will catch on.

[–] eletes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 16 hours ago

They should just spend that money on an ad campaign for the non emergency line

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Companies are already going away from such ideas..

[–] noodlesreborn@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Customer support is annoying or whatever but this is horrifying. Several people will die because of this.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

you're too concerned about those "consequences" but have you considered that they get to fire people as well and save money?

did you think of all the taxes they'll cut from the rich? no, you only think about yourself and what will happen to you in an emergency

[–] Piece_Maker@feddit.uk 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Not to mention the rich people who's pockets will get further lined with your tax dollars for their horseshit AI dispatcher!

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

you see, no downsides. it's good for the economy....

and the economy is the only thing that matters.

/s

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

did you think of all the taxes they’ll cut from the rich? no, you only think about yourself and what will happen to you in an emergency

This is what it comes down to.

Rich people matter.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 points 16 hours ago

In our society they are the only ones that matter, unless they start to live in fear

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It says for non-emergency calls.

It might actually help with real emergency calls getting through faster.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If someone calls 911 how on earth do you know its a non-emergency before speaking with someone?

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One thing left unclear is how the determination is made about emergency versus non emergency.

If it's a separate number, ok, seems clear cut enough.

If it's human always answers and if it's some bullshit they just click a button to punt to AI instead of just hanging up, ok.

If they are saying the AI answers and does the triage and hands off immediately to a human when "emergency detected", then I could see how that promise could fail.

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[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Unless the AI fucks up and makes it sound like an emergency.

[–] noodlesreborn@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I know, and maybe it will, my faith is just very low.

[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 11 points 19 hours ago

no

maybe to have in cases where they are under to much load, such as a massive emergency where they get way more calls than they can handle.

as a backup only.

but even then it'll encourage them to have less personnel.

never had a conversation that didn't hallucinate every now and then

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 6 points 23 hours ago

A lot depends on the implementation rather than the idea itself. I've read plenty of stories of people stuck on hold with 9-1-1 - including deaths - as well as cases where they've been hung up on by shitty operators.

An AI system might be able to do some basic triage to prioritize calls for the human operators and actually result in faster access/response and saved lives. It might also be able to do things like transcribing information such as addresses or location for responders. If the AI is planned to be a replacement for humans rather than an augmentation though, lives will likely be lost

[–] ApatheticCactus@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh you want to talk directly to a person? You need to subscribe to 911+. For only $4.99 a month, you get the following perks...

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just unlock it using your white voice.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You kid but voice recognition doesn't handle accents as well wherein accents is defined as anything other than what you hear on the news.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 15 hours ago

Last century: whistling tones into the phone to get a free call

This century: faking an accent to get the police to respond

Wait, that sounds like the last century as well...

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