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It’s called critical support. I can support both Iran’s self-defense from genocidal maniacs while simultaneously criticizing them for their human rights abuses. It’s something that people with a functioning brain can do - hold two ideas in their head at once.
Besides, Israel has killed more gay people in the last year just through sheer numbers of the people they’ve exterminated than Iran has ever.
Your last paragraph is really out there, making Israel worse because they may have accidentally killed more gays?
How about we don't cheer on either? How about we don't cheer at all? Innocent civilians are dying because a bunch of dictatorial egomaniacs want to feel powerful. I don't care what their nationality is, people are dying, I'm not cheering anyone.
Fuck the Israeli genocidal government
Fuck the Iranian murderous hateful theocratic dictatorship
Fuck the murderers from Hamas.
Take all of those against a wall and you finally might have a chance at actual peace there.
I'm not cheering, I'm crying for the people
accidentally
"woops accidentally carpet bombed an entire neighborhood didn't know there was a gay person there! tee hee!"
maybe if we overthrow their government again for oil money the iranians will learn better, right pheonix?
What about Israel, a country that literally executes an entire nation of people, the Palestinians?
What about not cheering for either one? Or just fuckin stop with the immediate what abouts?
What about this post then? Why didn't OP take that stance when making this post? Why are you just not directing your whataboutism at me?
"You shouldn't be cheering either of them" is the whole point of the post. If I saw people suddenly being pro-Israel, the meme would be about them. I only saw people cheering Iran, hence the meme.
In this conflict I learned to take no side, except the one of the victims who didn't ask to be involved.
Based take. Both states are awful and deserve eachother, the civilians living under them do not.
I'm not cheering for either of them and wish they both get what they deserve.
Is it possible they are both just very very bad?
They are. And I fear the Iranians are just going to circle the wagons and it will strengthen the evil Islamic pedophile regime. The Israelis will do the same.
Aye my good Ronno, that is exactly the point I am trying to get across in the meme!
I think the key difference being the people of the country. Idk for sure, but it seems one side has 80% of people supporting genocide, and the other side is doing their best to disobey bullshit Islamic laws like hair coverings.
It's not so much cheering on Iran, but not giving a shit about Israel. Like, Israel just attacked Iran, they reap what they sow.
Eh, one side is committing genocide, has been ethnically cleansing Palestinian, continually attacking neighboring countries, and effectively murdering gay people as well (do you think the 2000 pound bombs make an exception for gay people?) and the other side is a theocracy with all the flaws that come with that. When it comes down to it, Israel is far, far worse than Iran. You can support parties you're critical of.
I think the more morally sound position is to not support either of them (Zionists and Islamists).
I disagree, for three reasons. The first is effectively "inaction in the face of an oppressive status quo is complicity", and that's the weakest of the three, I'll be the first to admit. The second is that any nation has a right to defend itself when attacked. And that is very much what's going on here.
The third, for me, is the main reason, and it's an analogy. Imagine a situation with three people, a child rapist, a wife beater, and a child. The rapist is on the verge of raping the child, and the wife beater asks you to give him your gun to stop it (just imagine you're unable to fire it yourself for some reason). In this scenario, I would give the gun to the wife beater. I would be supporting a bad guy (he beats his wife), but I would do it 11 times out of 10.
For clarity, Israel is the child rapist, Iran the wife beater. And yes, the relative magnitude of immorality here corresponds with that between Israel and Iran.
Me when a guy in a white supremacist administration makes a nazi salute and the ADL goes "no, it wasn't"
Me when an interest group which for decades has cried out against genocide and targeted ethno-religious persecution actively and deliberately proclaims it is going to eliminate an entire ethno-religious group from a large area of land
Me when people are defending that
