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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 40 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Within an hour an appeals judge put a 1 week stay on the ruling. Fucking corrupt judges

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Are you saying that's happened? Or that you expect it will?

[–] thepenismightier@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Read the article it's literally in the first sentence.

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

God fucking dammit

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

The legal system in which the poor languish in jail for years awaiting trial moves extremely quickly when it wants to.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 21 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Awesome, so... I don't expect him to be arrested or impeached, or for there to even be an investigation or anything.

I'm hoping for something more realistic like taking away his screen time for the weekend, or at least till he says he's sowwy.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

He'd never get his screen time back in that case.

He will never, ever apologize for anything he does.

[–] Buske@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

He doesn't get arrested, but we do. He wont be in prison, but we are.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Such an optimist. I’m hoping for a clear declaration of illegality so the guardsmen involved have no excuses for knowing it’s an illegal order. I hope it will support any with the courage to stand up for the law, and will dissuade any cowards with the expectation they will face jail time

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh ok, cool. So naturally he's been or will soon be placed under arrest, because that's how being illegal works.

[–] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not anymore, it's not. He's immune from any sort of prosecution related to the job.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 8 points 18 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t it be nice if rulings against the talibangelical dictatorship actually carried any weight anymore?

[–] DanVctr@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago

Y'all Qaeda at it again

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 69 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The past year doesn't give me the feeling that this will change anything.

Trump is still free and doing his dumbevil stuff

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Need more Democrats to sit and wave cardboard signs. Need more protests to run head first into riot shields. Need more leftist to leave social media spaces wide open. Need more Faygo.

Then maybe things will be different

[–] valkyrieangela@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 14 hours ago

Too right. Dove and Hawk scenario.

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[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 165 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That means all those troops were following illegal orders.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

But the the military say they don't follow illegal orders. What's an illegal order? Well they don't really know but they definitely don't follow them!

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Exactly, stop going after trump. Go after every officer and government agents who followed those orders. See how fast they enforce his bullshit when they’re facing personal consequences

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Can’t that asshole just pardon them though?

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 6 points 13 hours ago

Not on state charges. But Newsom doesn want the optics of going after the troops for illegally kicking the shit out of his own constituants, because that would play terribly with the only important demographic for democrats, republican voters.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Will he though?

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe someday we'll honor the 14th amendment, nullifying 47th's term, rendering all of his pardons void

You know, since enemies of the US cannot hold office

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe someday you’ll honor the 2nd Amendment.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I've got no problem with the people bearing arms so they may rise up against a tryannical government... like one that has masked goons kidnapping farm workers and meat packers.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but maybe Trump issuing illegal orders to the military and offering pardons to those that follow them would be the catalyst Congress needs to pass an amendment limiting presidential pardon power.

[–] phar@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm aware realistically that will never happen. I was looking for a silver lining.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Vote republicans out in the mid terms. They’re the ones allowing Donnie’s bullshit.

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 118 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A federal judge has ruled that President Donald Trump acted illegally in deploying the National Guard to address protests in the Los Angeles area.

In a ruling issued Thursday evening, U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer wrote that such use of the National Guard was a violation of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution and exceeded the statutory authority granted to the president.

The order, which takes effect Friday, says the administration must return control of the California National Guard to the state of California.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Doesn’t he have immunity now?

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He does, but anyone following illegal orders doesn’t. Sure, he could pardon them, but only after a long, expensive, and potentially life-changing legal battle after which they’re convicted.

That doesn’t sound like a fight most regular troops should want to gamble on.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Pardons can be pre-emptive, as long as the illegal act has already occured. (Pardons cannot apply to a future crime that haven't happened yet.)

Just look at Ford Pardon Nixon.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago

That’s true, but trump is transactional. He and Giuliani were selling them for 2 million a pop. How many military regulars can afford one? Why should trump care to pardon them if they can’t give him something?

If I was rank-and-file, I wouldn’t take that bet.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 64 points 1 day ago (4 children)

They may not be able to prosecute him, but they can make him stop what he's doing. Theoretically.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago

Court: "Deploying National Guard in LA is illegal"

orange dickhead: "KILL THESE 'LOOTERS' IN NYC!

See, this is the problem. Doesn't even matter unless this category of actions are enjoined.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

And when he inevitably doesn’t listen they’ll make a really strong pouty face.

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[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 96 points 1 day ago (8 children)
[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 84 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The legal system is just not equipped to deal with the threat implied by Trump.

In the US it seems like judges are just another executive arm of the government anyway.

The few actual judges still considering the law just get perpetually paused with appeals and what have you.

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[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 13 points 1 day ago

The National Guard should release all arrested protesters, return to base and tell the Governor of California that they are "reporting for duty". If not, they are traitors (already before but then even more so).

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sure that means there will be repercussions

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (4 children)

He will just ignore it, and double down. Nothing will happen.

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