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National Guard members and Marines, called to Los Angeles by President Trump to prevent violent protests, can otherwise only serve in support roles.

"If there's an insurrection, I would certainly invoke it. We will see," he said.

We have not even seen "actual military violence" at this point. Keep that in mind when you argue that it doesn't matter if this escalates further bc what else could Trump do, the answer is this.

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[–] garretble@lemmy.world 191 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The irony of the president who actually did an insurrection using this act.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And yet, the TACO rule is a rule. He always chickens out.

[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Not always, he chickens out when the cost of doing something is ~~less~~ more* (edit: can’t believe I missed that one) than the gain. For this? Invoking total control of the US to crush dissent and his political opponents, and to push his agenda and further strip the US to the bone? Very likely worth it.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This assumes success. It takes more than words to pull off martial law. I'm not confident he wouldn't succeed, but if he could just declare "I am a dictator" and it would work, he'd have done it already.

[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why’s he actively picking fights here, and stirring the pot? To further excite the populous to open ‘rebellion’, and to ‘justify’ martial law.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, but the same reason he chickens out on all the other big gain moves also applies here. It's a big risk. Martial law could end with him as a dictator, but it could also end with him deposed or in a civil war or with mass refusal by the armed forces.

No one knows how something like that is going to play out. It's a chaotic situation and no amount of propaganda or opinion polls will ever guarantee that when the move is made people don't say "fuck that".

He doesn't back down from tariffs because he cares about the risks to the economy. He backs down because there's a high risk of other power centers in the country reacting poorly and his ego and power being checked. He needs to be perceived as powerful more than he needs to actually implement any of these crazy ideas that have been pitched to him.

[–] radioactivefunguy@piefed.ca 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The irony is laid on thick here... not only about the new "insurrection" . . .

"If we didn't get involved, Los Angeles would be burning. Los Angeles right now would be on fire, and we have it in great shape." -Trump

Someone who cared about LA burning wouldn't be rolling back environmental regulations and cutting funding to the Forestry Service for wildfire prevention...

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This motherfucker didn’t care when it was actually burning a few months ago

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

He engaged in insurrection and got away with it, but because he’s had the word used against him, his vindictiveness requires he misuse it against his own enemies. As an added bonus, he has the unique ability to seize additional power whenever he shouts certain words, like an anime villain.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Every accusation is an admission.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 96 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What I love about this is all the republican, far right gun totting idiots that said that electing communist democrats would lead to the country breaking down and authoritarian government taking control of everything with military force .... and how right wing idiots would be the first to fight back with their guns.

The country is being taken control by a dictator .... and I've yet to see second amendment morons taking the lead on anything.

Because it was always hiding the reality that they didn't care about any of that shit as long as people they don't like are getting hurt. The 2A canard is almost exclusively used by angry scared idiots who just want to shoot their neighbors and get away with it.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's fine when it's their tyrant taking control.

They could put the entire state under martial law and completely and illegally replace CA leadership with his own cronies with lengthy records of corruption and conflicts of interest and Trumps supporters will say, "Finally a President had the guts to crack down on that lawless hellhole of a state. The Nations healing begins!"

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fucked up thing is that the Prez deploying the Nat’l guard and Marines WITHOUT first invoking this act, is EXTREMELY ILLEGAL.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Not when you're God King Trump. Congress and SC will allow it.

I did read about this French invention that helped the working class previously, but I don't know if the tariffs are too high for Americans to import the idea.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

Insurrection Act. I wonder the last time we had a legitimate insurrection and the president who instigated that...

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

If open carry is allowed in your state, exercise that right at protests on the 14th

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do it pussy. You fuckers aren't competent enough to handle the fucking blowback coming your way.

[–] match@pawb.social 8 points 1 day ago

taco tuesday

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could you imagine the uproar if Obama or Biden did any of this?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

But Obama wore a tan suit.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago

Things haven’t been great in this country for years. I do feel like the aftermath of the events in LA will define the future of the country for decades, good or bad. Stay safe everyone, continue to stand up and fight and give a voice to those who are affected.

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Don't worry if you get arrested at the next insurrection, you'll get pardoned just like the imbeciles who did the last insurrection.
Feeling great yet?

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Tin soldiers and Nixon's calling. We're finally on our own.

Anyone surprised didn't just miss the last few months, they never picked up a history book. We haven't had our tieneman sq but 4 kids is more than though.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

he'll be ordering the military to start murdering people before next monday

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

This was always the plan.