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Recently joined and started a community for people who want to move away from Lemmy and want to see Lemmy loosen its stranglehold on the threadiverse, if that seems like something interesting to you consider checking out !cancel_lemmy@piefed.social

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[–] elevenbones@piefed.social 2 points 53 minutes ago

What the fuck are you talking about Jesse?

[–] Tealk@rollenspiel.forum 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

And pixelfed is your alternative? That's not even close to the same usecase.

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 3 points 1 hour ago

PieFed not PixelFed.

PieFed is like kbin/lemmy.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I've always thought it was really weird and really dumb sentiment to want to cancel Lemmy, as an Open source software. It's like people think they need to endorse the developers' views to use Lemmy, or pay them money to use the software. But like that's really dumb. Lemmy is free and opensource software, the developers have no say in who uses it, it's also opensource meaning anyone can fork it. So this position just seems weird and reactionary.

One thing that really makes me reluctant about the future of piefed is the fact that it runs on Python. Great for tinkering but it likely won't scale well, and Python is famous for breaking backwards compatibility. So expect this project to be hosed when Python 4 or 5 comes out and breaks compatibility or syntax with the previous version. I saw this happen with Kodi and other platforms with Python Based plugins, and it'll most definitely happen again, not to say it can't happen with something like Rust or Go, but these compiled languages are designed for big projects, python is just one-off scripts, so the ones maintaining languages like Rust, Go, C++ work a bit harder to keep them as functionally compatible as possible so big projects aren't crippled and trashed by an update.

Anyway that's my opinion on this whole thing, I don't believe Piefed is the future, and I do not think Instance Admins should jump at the chance to abandon Lemmy. Maybe for sublinks if it ever comes out, but not for piefed.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Mate,you have a 20 year old perception of python. "good for tinkering", Cheezus...

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Are you denying the problem of Backwards compatibility with python versions? It was and still is a big problem today. I'm still seeing the affects of that though many communities. I don't really think it's only good for tinkering but I know its developers clearly do, otherwise they wouldn't have subjected us to the transition from python 2.7 to python 3 and the fallout that followed, and people wouldn't have been so eager to comply with them dropping python 2.7 support in all their python integrated envionments before you could say bitrot.

Yeah somehow that doesn't give me much confidence for the future.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Python 2 transition took decades and EOL was almost a decade ago, get over it. If you still want to use it, use it!

I don't understand this approach at all. Software evolves and sometimes you need breaking changes. Godot did it as well, but I guess that "great for tinkering" as well.

It fills me with confidence that the language is the most widely used in the world and is not afraid to do what must be done instead of growing stale and unwieldly so that lazy developers don't learn anything new.

[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

You can sell me on Piefed without trying to cancel Lemmy out of nowhere.

How does it compare to mbin as a Lemmy alternative?

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 8 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Why cancel lemmy? it ain't perfect, but it's not a bad platform.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago

i just say feel free to block the triad of tankies instances, i imagine the complaints are come from there.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Some people for some reason want to cancel or boycott lemmy as a software because they think it'll hurt the Devs, which is stupid because this is open source software. Not only do the Devs get nothing from people using it without donating but they can't stop people from using it either, and since it's opensource, they can't stop people from modding/forking it either. This whole movement to cancel Lemmy is just reactionary garbage.

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It is reactionary to want to cancel an open source project or codebase based on grievances with a particular person or their opinions.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 minutes ago

Unrelated, but happy cake day

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

I just moved my instance over to PieFed on the weekend.

If anyone is looking for a smaller PieFed instance away from the bigger players, we'd love to have you here at quokk.au.

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Interested, how do I move an instance from Lemmy to piefed?

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

At the moment, you basically have to restart it all with a fresh install of PieFed on your server.

They are working on features options to transfer over and copy the content etc, but that may be many months away still.

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 2 points 2 hours ago

So I will stick on Lemmy for the time being. After all I don't care for down votes, I think votes in general should not be private, because this is like a public plaza what you say is public, and attaching a reputation because of down votes is dangerously bullying and a slippery slope, so piefed doesn't actually feel like my pie at the moment.

Still maybe I will try a fresh installation just to check it out.

[–] scytale@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Do you know where I can see a list of piefed instances?

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 8 points 5 hours ago

Not that you would want to look any where else of course, but...

https://fedidb.com/servers

filter by software.

[–] NotProLemmy@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 hours ago

Get my downvote and out

[–] bonjour@mander.xyz -1 points 3 hours ago

Are you ashamed of your post history or why did you create a new account for this noble cause?

[–] mike_wooskey@lemmy.thewooskeys.com 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Did...did you start a lemmy community for people to talk about not talking on lemmy...on lemmy?

[–] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 hours ago

It appears to be a Piefed community. You can see it on Lemmy through the magic of federation though.

[–] TheSaltyPenguin@piefed.social 8 points 6 hours ago

No... I started a Piefed community to discuss Lemmy alternatives and problems with Lemmy, on Piefed, the superior platform.