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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

I'm not actually surprised that the second american civil war starts in California. Cali always seemed like the most progressive state.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

And so it begins.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Repeat after me: A government that is bluntly sending weapon to bomb kids have no concern of it is own citizen.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.

[–] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 99 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

I just want to take a moment to say the “Biden was no better than Trump” crowd can go fuck themselves.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago

These things are always so annoying and uncritical. They are not wrong that the democrats are a conservative party, but that is still where the current progressive movement lives.

I think there is a bit of a trap in seeing the maga rise as a monolith, but I think there are two main wings. The evangelical side and the libertarian side. They might have some overlap, but their motivations and goals are still rather distinct. The important take away for this short essay of sorts is that they have agreed on enough points to move the overton window to get large parts of what they want. For the evangelicals it is abortion bans and ten commandments in schools. In the libertarian wing it is DOGE (inspired by the libertarian president in argentina)

Tankies and others who say “Biden was no better than Trump” are really messing up our ability to have a leftist/progressive party. In either growing it with-in the dems or starting from scratch. I want to understand what they are saying, but it is frustrating how unserious they are in actually achieving goals.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 hours ago

No no, you see, voting for Biden would be voting for this too, somehow. Because they are part of the same system, or something? Both sides same and all that.

Honestly the mental gymnastics are too much for me to effectively work out into a distilled comment.

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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 74 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

These people are protesting against extrajudicial deportation, deporting children, harassing legal immigrants, the Nazi government, etc.

It's not a fucking immigration protest. They didn't deploy the military for immigration protests. People spoke out against Nazis and the military was called in.

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 19 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, it’s no longer an “immigration protest”. It’s a NAZI protest.

[–] refract@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

If you don't own a gun, its time to get one, regardless of your stance on them. This is martial law without having to call it that.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/06/department-of-defense-security-for-the-protection-of-department-of-homeland-security-functions/

[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

There is no challenging the military as the citizenry. This is terrible advice.

What we should be doing is encouraging insubordination by service members. Why the fuck would you agree to use military force against your fellow Americans, on American soil? Not only is that unconstitutional, it's simply not what you signed up for. Say no

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Gavin Newson specifically said that he did not ask for or need the 2,000 troops and that sending to LA would only make things worse.

Sooo, there’s that.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 hours ago

Legally I believe the National Guard must be mobilized for a legal reason and until Trump has identified an actual cause, he cannot mobilize them himself. So Newson should just order them to stand down.

Newson hasn't done that though.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 115 points 10 hours ago

Funny how he doesn't hesitate here, but when Congress was literally in danger of being fucking lynched on Jan 6, he didn't do shit.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 25 points 8 hours ago

2000 Guardsmen. For a city of 3 million. And a governor who doesn't want them there. Sure. Good luck with that.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 30 points 8 hours ago

Shit MAGA creating their version of Tiananmen Square. I guarantee the fucking CCP and Russians are smiling.

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