this post was submitted on 07 Jun 2025
678 points (99.6% liked)

politics

23984 readers
3638 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Rep. Mary Miller ― a Republican from Illinois who once praised Adolf Hitler ― wrote, edited and ultimately deleted a social media post decrying “a Muslim” speaking in Congress.

“It’s deeply troubling that a Muslim was allowed to lead prayer in the House of Representatives this morning. This should have never been allowed to happen,” she wrote Friday. “American was founded as a Christian nation, and I believe our government should reflect that truth. May God have mercy!”

The man leading the prayer was guest chaplain Giani Singh, a follower of the Sikh faith, not Islam. Miller’s Republican colleague Rep. Jeff Van Drew (N.J.) introduced him as such on Friday.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 37 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

America is not a fucking Christian Nation

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Sometimes I really wish the founding fathers were around to just say, “Yeah, we were all atheists when we did this America thing. It just wasn’t fashionable at the time. So this idea that American was founded on Christianity, is well, just bullshit”

I mean they were literally fleeing religious persecution. Why would they bake religion into what they were creating?

[–] Sarek@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

While they were fleeing religious persecution, they were not atheists. The original Pilgrims were Christians who believed the church of England to be beyond redemption. All of the founding fathers were raised in some Christian belief system, and more or less practiced their respective branches of Christianity.

They were certainly more open-minded in accepting beliefs that deviated from their own, but also certainly not atheist.

[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 1 points 58 minutes ago

That's the very definition of irony.

[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Wow just the fact that she feels emboldened enough to dribble out this poison and post it online is telling.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago)

Who's doing anything about it? Nobody is marching on their representative's homes and offices. No letter-campaigns, we can't even be bothered to vote as a country without it turning into the apathy-olympics.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

The thought path of a short-minded individual: Turban->Muslim.

I'm all for a minimum IQ to enter politics. This would probably disqualify 50% of Congress & Senate. And 100% of the cabinet.

[–] Allah@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

if america is evil genocidal country for funding israel, why does she choose to stay and fund the genocide? i mean why not just leave? wouldn't that be the more feasable moral thing to do? it will also impact multiple industries.

just curious

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 24 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

My face when I found out the US has opening prayers in the house of government:

[–] JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone 14 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Seperation of... What was it again? logic and reason?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 57 minutes ago

Money and fools.

(We're the fools, they get the money.)

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 40 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

The US was founded as a secular state.. No getting around that. There were only a few devout christians in the original group of founding fathers. Most were deist. They had the recent memory of the thirty years wars where catholic and protestant armies had rampaged back and forth across Europe stealing the peoples food. Raping and burning out anyone who wouldn't convert. They did this to many who did convert. It was said at the time that they everyone kept two sets of bibles. They just hid one or the other depending on who had taken over at the time. That asshole regressive wouldn't ever be willing to admit that. Because she is too stupid to learn it.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I would take it one step further and say they (founding fathers) were possibly even atheists, or at the extreme, very agnostic theists with the idea that IF god does exist, he doesn’t care or bother about us (which of course is deism). It would have been very unpopular back then to say god doesn’t exist, so deism was a step in that direction. Just my theory.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

In some cases sure. Hamilton was very religious. He was also tolerant of other. The main consensus among the founding fathers was tolerance of differing beliefs. Something these ignorant fools today never learnt or most probably ignore.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago
[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 20 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

A secular nation shouldn’t be having in house prayers from any denomination.

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

if we want to keep it secular, we need to make christians fear for their lives.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 26 points 16 hours ago (8 children)

GOP keeps saying 'this is a Christian nation', but they don't want understand separation of church and state.

There is no state religion. If you open a state body to prayer, then all prayer is allowed, not just the prayers you want.

Long live the satanic temple.

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

a few bullets would go a long way to keeping us on track. destroy all religion for the sake of humanity

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

There should be no prayer in a secular institution

It’s a place for running a government not magical thinking

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Oh they understand perfectly well. Hence why they're trying to destroy the separation of church and state.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

She 100% doesn't know that Muslims and Sikhs are different, and doesn't care.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 7 hours ago

Terrified of all brown people, like half of America post 9/11

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

This is indeed deeply troubling. Whoever voted for that racist piece of shit should be ashamed

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

this is the conversation they WANT to have.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Bet she doesn't even know the whitehouse holds a shill PR ramadan iftar event every year regardless of the party in power lol

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mlg@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Yeah on March 28th

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Tax exemptions for religion are in part to stop the majority religion from taxing minority religions out of existence.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago

Ignorant cunt at that. Calling this a Christian nation is a joke to anyone who isn't a fascist hoping to use religion as a bludgeon.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 64 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Poor Sikhs always catching strays...

Also, yo, I kind of hate this country.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 31 points 1 day ago

“America was founded as a christian country”

You mean back when Christian people were so rabid that they thought of Catholics, the OG jesus folks, the way this lady sees any non-christian religion?

Maryland was created as the birthplace of religious freedom in this country specifically because catholics had nowhere else to go in the colonies without getting harassed. Ultimately, the concept of religious freedom would be elevated to a higher place of importance than christian snobbery by the time America was forming a country. Religious freedom was part of escaping the thumb of the King of England and other monarchs.

So, on the one hand, Miller is truly going old school by being a bigoted fuckhead. But on the other, she seems to have no idea that “America” would not exist if people hadnt been willing to tell the bigoted majority of protestants to shut the fuck up, and force them to live and let live

[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 292 points 1 day ago (7 children)

American was founded as a Christian nation

-- Every American Christian Bigot

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

-- First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States

🤔

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Disrespecting the religion seems to be fine with them though.

[–] hume_lemmy@lemmy.ca 246 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Don't forget:

The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.

-- John Adams

load more comments (10 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
[–] LemmyIsReddit2Point0@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This lady won with 73% of the vote in 2020, 71% in 2022, and unopposed in 2024. She is exactly what the people in that area want and that's sad. The US is like social media. It's not the platform it's the users that make it garbage.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

I mean, that's also because the DNC stopped really giving a fuck about anything but corporate donors a long time ago.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 160 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Well you see, the thing about conservatives is that they are fucking stupid.

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›