Opposition to the butchery in Gaza : microblogmemes

[–] VAVHV@lemmy.world 5 points 42 minutes ago* (last edited 42 minutes ago)

Isn't being against war and genocide the same as anti-imperialism? I hate how saying "War is bad" has become so controversial and extremist.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 6 minutes ago

Don't bother with people stuck in earlier stages of development. All they hear are excuses and immorality

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

I think there will be consequences for Israel's crimes, just not today.

Israel is destroying its reputation and its future with its current actions. Yet no power in the world can stop them today, because they have waay too many weapons.

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 7 points 1 hour ago

let's discuss why people are supporting governments, politicians and companies backing the genocide

[+] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world -11 points 1 hour ago (4 children)

Ahhh are we just gonna ignore hamas’s butchery? I’m even more not a psychopath because I oppose that as well as Israel’s. y’all messed up for leaving that out.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 8 points 59 minutes ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago) (1 children)

This is like saying "well are you just gonna ignore that some Jewish bankers are doing nefarious crimes?" in 1943.

It is absolutely fucking negligible in comparison, not to mention directly funded by Israel so that they would have an excuse for their indiscriminate slaughter. Give Palestinians a country, their homes, and restitution for decades of apartheid and then we can talk about what kind of problem Hamas is.

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world -2 points 57 minutes ago (2 children)

Killing 1200 people is still bad

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 3 points 11 minutes ago

Let's compare the numbers, so far a 1200 Israeli's were murdered on the opening day, and maybe 100 more deaths from combat. Total deaths 1300-ish. In the Gaza strip alone over 62,000-ish people have been killed. Using Israel's numbers from before the war they estimated maybe 50,000 active Hamas members. It's orders of magnitude different. Even assuming Hamas died first that still means Israel murdered 12,000 innocent people. Hamas is bad, but the state of Israel is a genocidal monster.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 1 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

Palestinians have a right to defend themselves.

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world -3 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

Don’t Israelies have that right too?

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 5 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

You can't starve children to death in self defence.

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 0 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

Agree. There’s a lot they are doing that is awful. Both sides are doing awful things is my point

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 minutes ago (1 children)

One side is literally thousands of times more awful, let's deal with that first

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 0 points 21 minutes ago

Na, I can accept both suck balls

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You're just ignoring the Germans butchered in the warsaw uprising? I am definitely not a psychopath and there was definitely a good reason for a bunch of German "civilians" to be outside a ghetto in a foreign country.

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world -2 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

Didn’t hamas march into Israel and were joined by non combatants then butcher and kidnap 1200? Seems different

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 2 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

The place they marched into is where their parents and grandparents lived before Israel ethnically cleansed it, driving them into the ghetto they're currently in.

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world -1 points 21 minutes ago

Still non combatants. Are you saying the indigenous people of your country should be allowed to kill anyone who lives there now?

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Which side is guilty of genocide? Which side are the invaders and settlers, and which side are the indigenous resistance?

Hamas aren’t fighting Jews in Europe or North America, they are resisting those who have stolen their lands and besieged them.

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world -2 points 52 minutes ago

October 7 wasn’t resisting. It was butchery. And pretending it wasn’t is psychopathy. Israel’s government is very much in the wrong too

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah didn't OP know that it's illegal to mention Israel's crimes without also mentioning Hamas in the same sentence?

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world -1 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

It’s a paragraph, not a sentence

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 51 minutes ago

Cool.

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