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depends on how you view the character but banky from chasing amy
she's absolutely Devine
Fun fact, her voice actress in Latin American Spanish is Serena Olvido, a trans Mexican actress and drag queen, who was the sole voice to convince the casting director for the role.
All the best Disney villains are LGBTQ+ coded. Jafar, Ursula, Scar. You could even make a case for Gaston!
I’ve never considered this…
What’s the argument for Gaston though?
Well, Gaston isn't really attracted to anyone but himself. He's a classic narcissist, and his pursuit of Belle is purely to feed his ego. If he could have sex with himself, he would. Vigorously, and somehow selfishly.
Le Fou, on the other hand, is an effeminate sycophant. The live action explicitly makes him gay, but the animated version merely suggests it. Singing about how handsome and manly he is, and how much everybody wants to wrestle with Gaston with the biting and the spitting and the hair-covered inches.
Couldn't have said it better myself!
Gaston has a trio of smoking hot blondes that are all over him, but he goes for the bookworm who wants nothing to do with him. He wants a wife who won't care when he goes on extended "hunting trips" with his manly man buddies, not one who will be all over him in the bedroom.
You know... there's an old gay man i know who's always reminded me a little of Scar and I could never quite figure out why.
Can you explain Jafar to me? Wasn’t his whole thing in Aladdin that he wanted Jasmine?
Queer coding doesn't necessary mean the character has to be queer, they just have to express stereotypical queer attributes, like wearing makeup (check), being sophisticated (check), having a flair (check) for the dramatic (check) being sexually confident (check) or even aggressive (check), displaying style and grace (check) while being intelligent (check) but not physically strong (check). Then there is the typical Disney-villain-physicality which also reads as queer coded, heavy lidded eyes, tightly trimmed beards, long faces (just look at Jafar and Scar next to each other)
In Jafar's case he was animated by an openly gay animator and sang music written by an openly gay lyricist, both visibly had a lot of fun creating this fabulous mess of an evil sorcerer.
Being sophisticated?
Yes, in that stereotype being worldly and educated is presented as foreign, urban, sinful, often depraved and in contrast to the supposed "purity" of small-town innocence and virginity. Remember that these stereotypes originated in the 1950s and are mostly the result of puritan, white, middle class, anglo-saxon, protestant worldviews. It's the reason that so many villains in american movies (among others Shere Khan, Jafar and Scar) have british accents, while the heroes (like Aladdin) talk with a midwestern accent.
(Runs through checklist...)
Wait... JD Vance?
Please don't. I really hate the "the anti-gay crowd is secretly gay"-narrative, because it carries connotations of "the gays" being responsible for their own oppression.
It's not so much a "narrative" as a well studied phenomenon among all oppressed groups.
There are individuals in all oppressed groups who, for complicated reasons, enable the cycle of oppression by policing peers, enforcing harmful norms, and seeking proximity to power at their own group's expense. (I'm making an observation and not a moral judgement)
See: internalized oppression, horizontal hostility, identification with the aggressor(s)
Fair
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I'm surprised no one mentioned the literal gay Satan from powerpuff girls lol
I absolutely would give my soul to him
I dunno... one reason the anti-queer rethoric is so prevalent is because in much media, but mostly comics, theater and movies, there is a tradition of queer-coded-evilness, and often it reads as evil-queerness. Mainly due to the american "code for media decency" preventing potraying queer people in positive light for many years.
This came to associate queerness with perversion and malice and all the prejudice some people still associate gay people with today. And I don't know if media-creators should play into that trope again.
I mean yes, Scar, Jafar and Ursula were resplendend and fascinating in their fabulous evilness. Sophisticated, oozing sexuality, theatrical and intelligent. And that makes them fascinating, wonderful characters but damn... I'm just so fed up with the media vilifying queer- and trans-coding.
And not only that, vilifying intelligence, the dramatic, sexual confidence and sophistication... or just british accents. The 90s Disneys movies were really really bad about all that.
Okay but weve all seen what makes these people cheer, so I dont think i cpuld sleep at night if they didnt think i was evil.
Thankfully it was mainly childrens shows that do this. Grown-up movies were busy doing it to Arabs instead.
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Be a 10 on the be gay do crime scale.
There are two kinds of vampires: aggressively bisexual vampires and shitty vampires
Interestingly enough...
Hannibal Lecter: Look for severe childhood disturbances associated with violence. Our Billy wasn't born a criminal, Clarice. He was made one through years of systematic abuse. Billy hates his own identity, you see, and he thinks that makes him a transsexual. But his pathology is a thousand times more savage and more terrifying.
I want to see more "Benign Queerness"
Its briefly mentioned that the character is gay or bi or trans and then it never comes up again because its not relevant to their job in a hospital/cop/whatever.
I feel like Brooklyn 99 did this well. ~~The chief~~ Captain Holt is a really interesting nuanced character who happens to be gay.
Minor nitpick: he was Captain, not Chief.
And him trying to pass for straight was some of the funniest scenes in the show:
Guard: It just seems like you wanna be with Jamie-Lynn. I mean, you keep talking about her thigh gap.
Captain Holt: That's my favorite part of a woman. There's nothing more intoxicating than the clear absence of a penis.
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Hell yeah!
Queer Villain Pride!
Agatha harkness
I only know Agatha Harkness from Marvel's Midnight Suns so I'm only vaguely aware she's evil in other media?
yes, if you want to see evil agatha in a non-comic book check out wandavision
also midnight suns is an incredible game and i was surprised agatha was a hero 😂
It was such a good game! I'm sad it won't get a sequel. Ebony is the best cat shaped cat like creature!
Isn't that what the conservatives are doing constantly?
There's every villian in that superboy school anime.
Peter Thiel?
Sam Altman
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