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[–] Kusarihime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 226 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You mean to tell me this AI company was actually 700 Indian engineers in a trenchcoat?

[–] vodka@lemm.ee 110 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Actually Indians is the best type of AI

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] JPAKx4@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 month ago

Used to be thousands of if-statements in a trench coat. But even that got offshored 😮‍💨

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 180 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Isn't this exactly what was exposed at the Amazon "Just Walk Out" stores? Turns out all the cameras and sensors weren't good enough, so they paid thousands of people in India to watch videos and correct checkouts. They basically just outsourced the position of cashier, while pretending it was all done automatically!

https://gizmodo.com/amazon-reportedly-ditches-just-walk-out-grocery-stores-1851381116

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 95 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Peoole aren’t appreciating just how bad these things are because they’re misinterpreting it. The goal of what they are doing here and with Amazon was never to just fake the technology right. The goal was to fake that the technology existed by using humans to do an automated thing and then to leverage that into making it actually automated.

But essentially what that means is theyre inventing technology that hasn’t been invented yet and selling it to you and the reason for doing so is to replace you with technology before it can even technically happen.

It’s essentially like someone building a new automated factory and telling workers at their other locations that they can’t be hired there since it’s automated but then someone goes inside and finds out they’re just using child laborers until the robots are ready and also robots haven’t been invented yet.

They’re using blood to grease wheels that don’t even exist to turn yet.

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[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, it's the exact same practice.

The main difference, though, is that Amazon as a company doesn't rely on this "just walk out" business in a capacity that is relevant to the overall financial situation of the company. So Amazon churns along, while that one insignificant business unit gets quietly shut down.

For this company in this post, though, they don't have a trillion dollar business subsidizing the losses from this AI scheme.

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[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 98 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Gets "AI"

looks inside

Badly paid employees

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

"Actually Indians".

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 90 points 1 month ago
[–] Lenny@lemmy.zip 88 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What’s next? Am I going to find out my AI girlfriend is actually a real woman? Smh my head, can’t trust anything these days

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, it is a teenage boy from Mombasa.

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[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 78 points 1 month ago (6 children)

AI stands for "actually indians"?

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm waiting for "generalized" actually Indians

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[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 70 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ahh yes, the mechanical indian

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 month ago

The Indian Turk or short IT-worker.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Next I'm going to find out ChatGPT is 700 thousand Indians typing really fast.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

That would explain why it sometimes gets sluggish!

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

It would save electricity

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[–] tartarin@lemm.ee 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

First to push forward and invented AAI, Artificial Artificial Intelligence.

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[–] Afflictedlife@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 month ago

What do you mean the new llm I invested in is just 700 Indians in a trench coat?!

[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago
[–] RaptorBenn@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Crazy that 700 professionals in india is cheaper than a compute/data centre.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 45 points 1 month ago (6 children)

700 professionals in India probably make more coherent software than AI.

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[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

in a trench coat

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Welcome back to tonight's episode of "Is it AI or 700 Indian Engineers!!" 👏🏾👏🏾 👏🏾

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 14 points 1 month ago

I'm picturing a room of people with protractors ray tracing Doom.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wonder if they produced better results than an AI would

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Probably. A startup flush with cash could probably afford to hire good talent.

[–] WolframViper@lemmy.org 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope this isn't part of a larger trend of human labor being devalued because companies pretend it's just machine labor. I hope that's literally impossible.

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A lot of companies have been doing this for years. AWS literally sells this as a service: https://www.mturk.com/

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Amazon SageMaker Ground Truth

Who names this shit? I want to have a serious talk with their mother.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

On the internet no one knows you are 700 Indian engineers.

[–] 10001110101@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago

but it turns out all that cash was going toward a workforce of over 700 Indian engineers, rather than an AI.

I doubt much of that cash was going to their workforce. Should have though.

[–] Chefdano3@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

I'm being increasingly convinced that when we do develop true AI, it'll actually be just a massive array of interconnected human brains in a secret facility somewhere.

[–] sevan@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Someday, that's what we'll be sold as "The Singularity". Some company like Apple or Google will offer us ascendance into the cloud, but we'll actually just become digital slave labor.

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[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Weird headline. I know they mean “exposed as another mechanical turk ‘AI’ company” but headline appears to imply simply having Indian engineers was the problem.

Edit: added explanatory link to the technical term to clarify

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[–] RacerX@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago

They should have had 701

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 month ago

The post-modern version of "three kids in a trenchcoat."

[–] mxc@programming.dev 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Next do "self driving cars"

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 1 month ago

You mean the 40 horsepower is actually 40 Indians under the hood??

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[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It says it's been doing this for 8 years. So, since AI hasn't even been around that long, does that mean they were always like this and just lied that they switched over to AI? I wonder if they just encouraged the current employees to field the response and then they would run it through another AI to provide answers. Either way there had to be some delay which I feel would have been the dead giveaway?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 17 points 1 month ago

Using machine learning including neuronal networks, generative AI based off of neuronal networks and so on exist well longer than since the past few years.

"DeepDream" was released as a software ten years ago. Research into LLMs exists since at least the 90s.

"AI" also has been a hype term in many industries since a decade, just that it reached the general public with the ChatGPT hype.

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[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago
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