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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 4 points 17 hours ago

You thought 50TB was it? LOL! Hold on to your butts because 53.713TB SSDs are coming! These will cost you all your vital organs at 35years of age. Brains included.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Can't wait to see how these 40 TB hard drives, a wonderment of technology, will be used to further shove AI down my throat.

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I know people love to dunk on Seagate drives, but it was really just the one gen that was the cause of that bad rep. Before that the most hated drives were the "deathstars" (Deskstars). I have a 1TB Seagate drive that is 10 years old and still in use daily. Just do some research on which drive to buy, no OEM is sacrosanct. I'd personally wait 6 months to a year before buying one of these drives though, so enough people have time to find out if this generation is trouble or not.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Many people can't accept that one drive model isn't going to kill a company or make everything from them bad.

The exception being the palladium drive. Although its not directly attributed to the fall of JTS, who at the time owned Atari. Its was clear from the frontline techs these things were absolute shit. The irony is that 1 out of say 10,000 was perfect. So much so I still have one of the 1.2 gig's that still spins up and reads and writes fine. Its nearly a unicorn though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok5JTwpv5go

[–] digilec@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had one of these, it worked perfectly for years. I might even still have it. I remember it being a significant leap in size and cost per MB.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

We had failure rates over 90% on them. We sold around 8000 computers on contract to the local schools that year and took a hit to our rep. We started going from school to school replacing them before they could fail.

The drive in the picture is dated mar 16 97. I'm pretty sure it was one of thousands of warranty replacements we received. Like I said its still good but really hasn't been in service in over 30 years. I keep it because its a reminder of how bad, bad can be.

JT storage went out of business in 98. When we heard they had no one was surprised.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JT_Storage

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

That is an absolutely wild fail rate.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

i dunno man, i have about 20 years worth of bad experiences with seagate. none of their drives have ever been reliable for me. WD drives have always been rock solid and overall just better drives in my experience. I have two WD externals sitting on my desk right now that are almost 15 years old. Still going strong.

Seagate have never once secretly changed the underlying disk technology on a NAS grade drive to one utterly unsuited for use in a NAS drive and then sold it as a NAS grade drive at a premium price because it's a NAS grade drive. So there's that.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have killed every single type of magnetic platter drive from every brand they are all bad

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Not "bad", consumable.

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[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only drives I have ever had die on me were actually both WD, but it's all anecdotal, and I've had tons of WD drives that were great (my favorites were the raptors and velociratpers). I've owned way too many HDDs over the many years, and I can say that I haven't had issues with any, but again I do my research and only order from what I believe to be good runs of drives. In case you have never done so, take a look at the reports that Backblaze puts out on their drive reliability. I found it pretty eye opening. Before Backblaze start sharing their data, there used to be a site that crowd sourced HDD lifetimes and failure causes that I used to use when buying drives and I always entered my drive data there. I can't recall the name of it now nor do I know if it still exists, but you could definitely spot the "bad" gens on there and WD and Seagate were both pretty even as far as I recall. I remember Hitachi being statistically worse, but it made sense as they bought IBM's derided Deskstar business from them. Ironically, WD ended up buying Hitachi's HDD business years later, but I think it was considered OK by then.

[–] abdominable@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is not anecdotal, Seagate, FOR A DECADE, had quantifiably the worst drives with some models hitting 30% failure rate. They still, to this day, have shit models with over 10% and are almost always, the worst in back blaze reports of all data center drives. The only issue we have on the reports is nobody does random sampling and Seagate has always been the cheapest so they get overrepresented in reports.

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[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

If EA or Ubisoft don't get their shit together this won't be enough.

[–] UltraBlack@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Wow great. From seagate. The company that produces drives with the by far lowest life expectancy compared to the competiton

[–] crozilla@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And IIRC moved their headquarters to some Caribbean island to avoid paying US corporate taxes.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 10 points 1 day ago

They're called Seagate, not Landgate.

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[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I can't wait to upgrade my NAS to a 200Tb Setup

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey! You! Get offa the Cloud (and grab yourself one of those drives). You can keep your thoughts to yourself, now you can keep your data to yourself, like in the recent old times.

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Best to get at least 2 so you have a backup

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[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I can't wait to lose even more data when this thing bricks

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine how long it’ll take to rebuild your raid array after one fails lol

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

underrated comment. i'd much rather clone a 16 tb drive than 50 tb one. Also better speeds considering the use of more drives. That said, if I can save on electricity, noise, enclosure space, and very importantly, money, it could be pretty cool. Just need to wait and see how reliable these things are and if they are going to carry a price point that makes them make sense.

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Hope you have a database for file management at that point.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Great, can't wait for it to be affordable in 2050.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine losing a 50tb drive because you choose to use Seagate.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Seagate Exos is usually ok. Their generic stuff, is sometimes crap, but that's true of all manufacturers, really.

That being said, I'd be nervous with a single huge drive, no matter where it's from. And even as part of a redundant structure, the rebuild times would be through the roof.

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

…And it’s bound to be stupidly expensive.

Wish I could afford 20 of them, but not without winning the Powerball.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i don't mind that, if it means that lower capacity drives will get cheaper

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

20 of them? Just curious, how would you use 800 or 1600 TB of storage?

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

A mirror of Anna’s Archive.

Information is meant to be free.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Oh, nice idea! Maybe that's kind of what Simon on Firefly meant by a "source box".

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

4k Blu-ray rips? Naw, probably porn.

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