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Instead of even trying to chase jobs that seem out of reach, Gen Z is embracing living like a rat—not showering or leaving the house for days at a time.

The millennial era of “work hard, play harder” and “girl bossing” has given way to a new trend. In China, at least, Gen Zers are proudly calling themselves “rat people”—they’re spending entire days procrastinating in bed, scrolling on their phones, snoozing and ordering take out.

I think it has something to do with "giving up" on the economy: if you have very low chances of landing a job anyways, why even try?

The article does not directly tell us how many people participate in this movement consciously. It does hint, however:

Today, over 4 million American Gen Zers remain jobless. In China, the government has said that as of February, 1 in 6 young people are unemployed.

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[–] demunted@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

The whole gig economy / hustle culture was deliberately abused by companies treating people like consultants except with low wages and certainly zero benefits. People are taking all the downside and businesses are completely covered from any liability. It has to end somewhere.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm doing the same thing in the US after getting laid off, have no energy or motivation to apply for jobs or prep for interview. I'm kinda depressed about this situation but also kinda happy to have the freedom to actually rest and breath again, for a first world country the American work system is draconic, and tying Healthcare access to a job is just inhumane

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 10 points 1 day ago

Sorry to hear you lost your job. Hoping the best for you, internet stranger!

I agree that tying healthcare to one's job is totally fucked up. Everyone should get healthcare, period. A less than 40 hour work week, and a ubi would be nice too.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Friend, fuckin' same. It seems like all the propaganda hit pieces do is make them feel more relatable, damn.

[–] Bababasti@feddit.org 30 points 1 day ago

You have more in common with a Chinese or Russian worker than any billionaire.

[–] KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago

Remember when the USA banned TikTok and all the USA users flocked to RedNote? USAmericans were shocked that, contrary to their propaganda, Chinese life was just like theirs (but with healthcare); and Chinese users were shocked the USA life wasn't propaganda.

[–] Googledotcom@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The greatest tragedy of 21 century is masses of pacified people who farm karma and validity online in some circlejerks to feel dopamine hits from moral superiority.

It’s the real brain drain of today.

When they give up, the Machiavellists who were countered by brave people in the past come in full force.

I ask you… no I beg you. Use the internet to enhance communication, not just as an escape. We cannot afford to run from the problems any longer

To tell another story, workers are like kindle of the great furnace of the industrial-capitalist complex, and to stay at home is to take away the fuel from the machine.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 130 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The millennial era of “work hard, play harder”

I hate to be that guy that calls everything Orwellian, but this is NOT how Fortune was describing Millenials 15 years ago

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ah, yes, the rhetoric 'grind culture' disguising working three jobs just to eat and sleep in conditions that are semi-humane. But being scolded and scorned for never being able to buy a house because we like avocado toast. Working so hard, but never working enough in the same breath.

It was never about the fucking toast. 'Goblin mode' and 'adulting' and 'gamer shut-in' and 'NEET' was never about being lazy. It was always about painting out the propaganda to guilt us into not meeting the model of expectation instead of our elders accepting blame. Maybe, hear me out, they should open their eyes and see that we're living in a level of poverty so hilariously deep that not even our kids--Gen Z and Gen Alpha--will be able to dig it out.

They're not giving up because they're lazy. They're opting out of a system designed to fail.

[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

15 years ago millennials were cast in the generic framework of lazy younger generation. Now we have hindsight for them to be able to observe what actually happened. Millennials absolutely became a workaholic play hard generation.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

Yeah wtf is that? I’m a fucking burnout who is so lazy my hair is just a matted mess and has been for like a month

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Man I remember when I was allowed to work hard, now robots get all the jobs and I'm stuck. It's really weird.

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[–] the_q@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If only all the rats of the world combined into an unruly rat king... Then things would change.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wasn't there also the "lie flat" trend? It's not just Gen Z who are calling uncle. If I had the means, I'd join them.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 216 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hard not to sympathize. World is fucked.

[–] match@pawb.social 78 points 2 days ago

Solidarity with rats worldwide

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s just called depression. I’ve been experiencing that for years

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Late-stage capitalism induced depression 👈

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The environment doesn’t help whatsoever and capitalism absolutely breeds this but it’s not the sole cause. Depression is still a disorder that needs to be treated and would still exist even without this hostile environment we live in

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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 52 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Aren't rats notable for their hygiene and social skills? Seems like a poor comparison.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Chinese culture has almost satirical levels of disrespect and misunderstanding of animals so it's very much on character.

I used to have 3 rescue rats and they are incredibly clean, active and social animals. I'd used to take them outside and observe how they explore new areas and its was really incredible how coordinated and thought out their exploration plans would be and executed with utter most curiosity. Also very cute how they'd come back to me and ask to be taken home to their cage by basically hugging my foot.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (7 children)

One of the animals in the Chinese year is the rat. I don't think that there is a "satirical level of disrespect" if the animal is that important.

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[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rats are the best. Little pocket puppies

/r/rats is the reason I'm still on Reddit

The pet rats community here is far too quiet

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the only thing that stops me from getting rats is the short lifespans. I love dogs, and ~10 years is already too short. Dealing with that every two would just break me.

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[–] network_switch@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I always find these articles being so popular in western social media weird and subtly braggy. It's like the Lyndon Johnson quote about about making white feel better than black people so you can rob them of whatever. Such a distraction that makes people feel like we're better than them/at least we're not them. Yet pretty much every trend I've seen about Chinese ennui was at the time true of Americans and western Europeans just articles being written about the ennui would not be mainstream for a couple more years. Like minimalism during the financial crisis or recently quiet-quitting in the US were celebrated in US social media as great workers movements that are positive social movements and a sign of cultural strength while lying flat in China in US social media is a sign of societal decline. Whatever either is, it's the same shit. It's always weird exoticism to me. You don't get popular articles about youth expectations about young people in Romania or Greece

[–] commander@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Americans shouldn't be looking at other countries to feel better about themselves regardless. They should be letting themselves feel bad so that they actually maintain some energy levels to fight for their own rights domestically instead of contributing to the constant stream of jingoism that has been American media since inception. Decades living and its a cycle of next enemy while economic disparity just keeps widening but people are pacifying themselves with the next enemy

[–] shikitohno@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

I would imagine it reads rather differently to different people. Rich guys reading Forbes probably think it's a great dunk on China. Meanwhile, I'm reading it thinking, "Shit, I could get behind this. Just wish I lived somewhere that it didn't mean I would be homeless in less than a year if I tried it."

[–] Googledotcom@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ehh it’s just your projection, people aren’t okay all over the world because of global downturn

There’s no bragging, just journalism. I am from Poland btw and here and in eu all gen z have similar tendencies. Worse in USA and China probably but it is a global trend

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Today, over 4 million American Gen Zers remain jobless. In China, the government has said that as of February, 1 in 6 young people are unemployed.

I hate mixed comparisons...

There's about 69 million (nice) Gen Z in America.

So America = 5.7%

China = 16.6%

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago

I'm sorry, but Millennials or Genz did not invent quiet quitting. The media made it up to describe just doing your damn job

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 41 points 2 days ago

I can get behind this. Overthrow your country's oppressive working conditions by simply refusing to engage and proudly calling yourself a rat. Everyone in capitalist hellscapes should do that.

[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 45 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You sure it's not just depression?

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The rat seems to be their equivalent totem to the raccoon/opossum

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[–] who@feddit.org 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)
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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 14 points 2 days ago

It would be so very Warhammer 40k if sheer capitalism warped humanity into the Skaven.

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