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[–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 52 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Just nationalise it you cowards. Take it away from them.

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The fact that private companies exist to sell water is clearly insane to be honest.

[–] DrCake@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Especially as there’s no competition. At least then they couldn’t just put up bills to cover it as you’d just switch, like energy.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Honestly, if we nationalized now. The debtors would expect the gov to pay. And it would be hard to refuse. At least without harming our national credit/trust.

Let the fuckers go bankrupt. Spend some time letting the military have to provide clean water. Aka 70s stand pipes.

Then rebuild them as a nationalized company. This way, the debtors cannot claim Thames water was anything but a dumb investment on their part.

It is very likely the extra 3b they just borrowed was only allowed because the banks consider potential nationalisation a risk reduction strategy. Fuck letting them screw taxpayers by funding failing companies.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The great thing about nationalizing something is you can just tell the debt collectors to fuck off.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not if you want those debtors top invest in anything in your nation again.

The nation is then faced with a banking industry that refuses to trust any large government projects. So we then have to find the money for any investment before building.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The same investors that actively allow citizens to be poisoned for profit? Sounds like a their problem. They should begging not to be fined out of existence as well.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

If rapid emergency nationalism happens that frequently in your nation, that would be a prudent decision. Hopefully it's not so.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nationalising now would cost hundreds of billions.

Or, if you went down the banana republic route of forcibly nationalising without any compensation, and ignored the laws that currently prevent that, investment into the UK would plummet.

Investment in the UK already took a big hit from Brexit, we don't need to make it worse.

The government is already the operator of last resort for the water companies. That means if the companies go bust any nobody steps in to buy them, the government takes over automatically.

I think the government should state they won't be bailing out these water companies if they fail. That's how it should be for any private investment.

When Thames and others go bust, the government steps in and takes over automatically as Operator Of Last Resort, theoretically with a tremendously lower cost to public finances.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

So they recoup the fine from customers and carry on as before?

Fuck, just nationalise it already.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 11 points 2 weeks ago

They'll nationalise it and make the government pay the fine to itself.

[–] Officer_Pickles@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

They can't increase prices to pay off the fine.

[–] cook_pass_babtridge@feddit.uk 2 points 2 weeks ago

They're not allowed to raise prices, so they'll just get in more debt and we'll have to bail them out again, giving a bunch more UK taxpayer money to US hedge funds.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

They aren't allowed to raise their prices.

[–] PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago

Now start jailing the executives responsible

[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And given a three billion pound handout.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Not from the government they haven't.

[–] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Thanks Water immediately raise prices to cover it. Ditto Anglian Water.

Nationalise it, accounting for the infrastructure deficit rerouted to dividends. De-gravy train it.

[–] Officer_Pickles@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Prices cannot be increased to cover it.

[–] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Those might be the rules, but I was a child when the rules last actually applied or were applied.

No-one with any ability as a politician will go anywhere near politics this century. And when I say ability I mean moral compass.

[–] Officer_Pickles@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

The prices are only changed during the Price Review period. The next PR is PR29 during which business plans are submitted and agreed upon.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

They can't be raised to cover it.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh no, how ever will they financially recover. What is this.